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The one thing Musk does not have in his drive for total world domination is AI. Don't let him get it. Profoundly dangerous. Watch as he attempts to use the l

The one thing Musk does not have in his drive for total world domination is AI. Don't let him get it. Profoundly dangerous. Watch as he attempts to use the levers of the now illegitimate US government to force the outcome.

FFRefresh 2y ago
He already owns xAI, valued at $45B+.
- disqard 2y ago
  Correct, though my perception is that it's a distant Nth-place player behind ChatGPT, Claude, Gemini, Perplexity, etc.
  - chrisco255 2y ago
    Grok 2 is already better than Claude 3.5, at least for programming tasks, in my experience.
    - EricDeb 2y ago
      Why would musk want another AI company or is this just to get back at Altman?
      - deleted 2y ago
        [deleted]
- wyre 2y ago
  My instinct says he wants OpenAI so he can turn ChatGPT into another propaganda machine like he did with Twitter.
  - whamlastxmas 2y ago
    It’s pretty wild to try to claim twitter wasn’t a propaganda machine before musk
    - stackedinserter 2y ago
      You don't understand, it was promotion of _the right things_, it doesn't count as propaganda. /s
      - knowaveragejoe 2y ago
        The twitter files broke so many people's brains. They revealed essentially nothing of consequence, but it validates those who were already convinced that twitter was "silencing conservative voices". Of course when we look at any sort of success metrics that actually matter to a twitter personality, the top spots are overwhelmingly conservative pundits, and essentially always have been.
        whamlastxmas 2y ago
        Except for when they, you know, get banned entirely
    - wyre 2y ago
      I didn't realize I was implying that. It was def a propaganda machine before, but I hope we can agree that under Musk it is a very different machine
      - whamlastxmas 2y ago
        To turn something into implies it isn’t already
stiltzkin 2y ago
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chrisco255 2y ago
If you don't think Tesla is an AI company, you're not paying attention. xAI is also owned by him. Meanwhile, OpenAI was cofounded by him. Is there some reason OpenAI, which has maneuvered for regulatory capture of the AI industry in the past, is less dangerous than whatever you perceive?
DirkH 2y ago
Why illegitimate? The Americans voted for him.
- antifa 2y ago
  Musk wasn't on the ballot.
  - TrapLord_Rhodo 2y ago
    So you can't hire him as part of the department? There are hundreds of department heads that are not elected eithier.
    - ModernMech 2y ago
      None of them are giving press conferences in the Oval Office and acting like they're above the law. Typically when someone has as much power as Musk, they must either be elected or confirmed by the Senate. At the very least Musk needs to explain some thing under oath, especially the processes he's put in place to deal with his massive conflicts of interest. He was asked about those yesterday, and he explained there is no conflict because he's posting everything transparently on Twitter, which is itself a conflict of interest.
      - TrapLord_Rhodo 2y ago
        The president has broad authority to build his team and run his departments as he see's fit. Congress has the right to elect department heads but if a special initiative is created under the treasury department, that department does not need to be nominated. Elon has special overnment initiative to find massive waste... He has shown that the Social security database is de-duplicated and there are thousands of individuals above the age of 150. Hundreds of treasury employees have access to the same database he has, and most of the data analysis can be done open source via FPDS-NG.
        dragonwriter 2y ago

FFRefresh 2y ago

He already owns xAI, valued at $45B+.

disqard 2y ago
Correct, though my perception is that it's a distant Nth-place player behind ChatGPT, Claude, Gemini, Perplexity, etc.
- chrisco255 2y ago
  Grok 2 is already better than Claude 3.5, at least for programming tasks, in my experience.
  - EricDeb 2y ago
    Why would musk want another AI company or is this just to get back at Altman?
    - deleted 2y ago
      [deleted]
wyre 2y ago
My instinct says he wants OpenAI so he can turn ChatGPT into another propaganda machine like he did with Twitter.
- whamlastxmas 2y ago
  It’s pretty wild to try to claim twitter wasn’t a propaganda machine before musk
  - stackedinserter 2y ago
    You don't understand, it was promotion of _the right things_, it doesn't count as propaganda. /s
    - knowaveragejoe 2y ago
      The twitter files broke so many people's brains. They revealed essentially nothing of consequence, but it validates those who were already convinced that twitter was "silencing conservative voices". Of course when we look at any sort of success metrics that actually matter to a twitter personality, the top spots are overwhelmingly conservative pundits, and essentially always have been.
      - whamlastxmas 2y ago
        Except for when they, you know, get banned entirely
  - wyre 2y ago
    I didn't realize I was implying that. It was def a propaganda machine before, but I hope we can agree that under Musk it is a very different machine
    - whamlastxmas 2y ago
      To turn something into implies it isn’t already

stiltzkin 2y ago

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chrisco255 2y ago

If you don't think Tesla is an AI company, you're not paying attention. xAI is also owned by him. Meanwhile, OpenAI was cofounded by him. Is there some reason OpenAI, which has maneuvered for regulatory capture of the AI industry in the past, is less dangerous than whatever you perceive?

DirkH 2y ago

Why illegitimate? The Americans voted for him.

antifa 2y ago
Musk wasn't on the ballot.
- TrapLord_Rhodo 2y ago
  So you can't hire him as part of the department? There are hundreds of department heads that are not elected eithier.
  - ModernMech 2y ago
    None of them are giving press conferences in the Oval Office and acting like they're above the law. Typically when someone has as much power as Musk, they must either be elected or confirmed by the Senate. At the very least Musk needs to explain some thing under oath, especially the processes he's put in place to deal with his massive conflicts of interest. He was asked about those yesterday, and he explained there is no conflict because he's posting everything transparently on Twitter, which is itself a conflict of interest.
    - TrapLord_Rhodo 2y ago
      The president has broad authority to build his team and run his departments as he see's fit. Congress has the right to elect department heads but if a special initiative is created under the treasury department, that department does not need to be nominated. Elon has special overnment initiative to find massive waste... He has shown that the Social security database is de-duplicated and there are thousands of individuals above the age of 150. Hundreds of treasury employees have access to the same database he has, and most of the data analysis can be done open source via FPDS-NG.
      - dragonwriter 2y ago