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I'm at the point now that if I get a CAPTCHA, I'm just going to leave the site. I'll spend my money elsewhere or find an alternative
by jp191919 2y ago
I'm at the point now that if I get a CAPTCHA, I'm just going to leave the site. I'll spend my money elsewhere or find an alternative
- a2128 2y agoMy government's websites require solving a reCAPTCHA for basic services, which is horrifying. They also use Cloudflare which blocks me sometimes. This is in the EU
- phoronixrly 2y agoConfirming this. I am also completely certain that gratuitous CAPTCHA use is banned for government systems by my country's set of laws governing their implementation. The judicial system and the community have not matured enough to consider this a breach of law worthy of fighting against...
- openplatypus 2y agoName and shame, please!! ReCAPTCHA due lack of opt out is effectively illegal in the EU.
- phoronixrly 2y agoreCAPTCHA (and others based outside of EU) is illegal on privacy ground (in any site, not just owned by EU entities). Homebrew CAPTCHAs are illegal due to their general lack of accessibility (in any site owned by an EU entity), and in Bulgaria their gratuitous use is banned in government sites on account of them being poor UX (not enforced unless caught during the acceptance phase of a project). An example of an inaccessible homebrew CAPTCHA that causes very poor UX can be found on the portal that provides access to the legal acts of the Bulgarian judicial system: https://legalacts.justice.bg/ https://legalacts.justice.bg/ . Try taking the legal system to court. I tried for this one, you can see for yourself how it went.
- veeti 2y agoIf it's "effectively" illegal can you name a single court decision saying so?
- cccbbbaaa 2y agoIn my country: MED-2020-015 (against the ministry of health), SAN-2023-023. Maybe more.
- openplatypus 2y agoSure thing https://wideangle.co/blog/is-recaptcha-illegal-under-gdpr#cnil-case-on-google-recaptcha https://wideangle.co/blog/is-recaptcha-illegal-under-gdpr#cn...
- bmacho 2y agoWhere in the EU? Maybe you can file a GDPR complaint
- cyberax 2y agoThis automatically means that you're penalizing smaller websites. And killing off the independent alternatives to Reddit/Disqus. Do you want this? Large sites like Amazon or CNN can afford to eat the bot traffic. Smaller sites can't.
- noah_buddy 2y agoSounds a heck of a lot like the bots are killing off these websites. Gross overuse of automated scraping is a fact of life but individual choice is intolerable. What if I told you they were the same thing?
- cyberax 2y agoYes, bot traffic is killing the open web. What's your point?
- phoronixrly 2y agoRegulate against inaccessible and privacy invasive CAPTCHA (done and done in EU) and regulate against disruptive bot traffic (what's the hold-up there? Oh, I see, it requires actual competent law enforcement... That's a hard one). Me only half-joking while standing on my high EU horse.
- ChadNauseam 2y agoOnce regulations against disruptive bot traffic are effective enough that you don't need captchas, please ban captchas. But I don't see why you would do it the other way around. (Unless you secretly know that effective regulations against bot traffic are impossible.)
- phoronixrly 2y agoOh I do believe they are possible. It is just high time that the units fighting against organised crime heavily expanded their scope to illicit online activities that actually cause financial harm by entities to entities smaller than the movie/music/publishing industries.