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I am making absolutely huge unfounded assumptions? Show me the existing technology to alter or completely redesign the human body "plan" (whatever that means) t

by lapcat 2y ago

I am making absolutely huge unfounded assumptions? Show me the existing technology to alter or completely redesign the human body "plan" (whatever that means) to make it compatible with living on Mars. Otherwise, it's you who is making the absolutely huge unfounded assumptions.

avmich 2y ago
Why you need to see an existing tech? It's too easy to dismiss an argument on the grounds that the tech isn't there. I'm exagerrating, but we're talking about real scientific progress here, right?
- lapcat 2y ago
  > It's too easy to dismiss an argument on the grounds that the tech isn't there. It's way too easy to pretend that massive problems can magically be solved by some imagined but nonexistent tech. In any case, we're not even close to having this tech during the lifetime of Elon Musk, who's now over 50 and has been promising a Mars colony for decades. I don't know what's possible in the far future, but in the near future this is all just hand-waving nonsense. They can't even get Full Self-Driving cars right that don't crash randomly.
  - avmich 2y ago
    So, since both sides are easy to state but hard to prove, we should conclude that this is an uncertain matter, right?
    - lapcat 2y ago
      There's nothing hard to prove about the current nonexistence of the technology. Indeed, nobody is even working on the technology as far as we know.
      - avmich 2y ago
        But nonexistence of technology isn't a proof of impossibility, or even particular hardness.
        lapcat 2y ago
        You don't think it's hard to alter or completely redesign the human body to make it compatible with living on Mars? Ok, bud, whatever you need to tell yourself. I'm done here.
natch 2y ago
Who said the technology needs to exist now? Nobody. Again, just wild assumptions on your part. I’m not even saying the technology will exist. It just very likely will.
- lapcat 2y ago
  > It just very likely will. Again, just wild assumptions on your part.
  - natch 2y ago
    Say what?

by lapcat 2y ago

avmich 2y ago

Why you need to see an existing tech? It's too easy to dismiss an argument on the grounds that the tech isn't there. I'm exagerrating, but we're talking about real scientific progress here, right?

lapcat 2y ago
> It's too easy to dismiss an argument on the grounds that the tech isn't there. It's way too easy to pretend that massive problems can magically be solved by some imagined but nonexistent tech. In any case, we're not even close to having this tech during the lifetime of Elon Musk, who's now over 50 and has been promising a Mars colony for decades. I don't know what's possible in the far future, but in the near future this is all just hand-waving nonsense. They can't even get Full Self-Driving cars right that don't crash randomly.
- avmich 2y ago
  So, since both sides are easy to state but hard to prove, we should conclude that this is an uncertain matter, right?
  - lapcat 2y ago
    There's nothing hard to prove about the current nonexistence of the technology. Indeed, nobody is even working on the technology as far as we know.
    - avmich 2y ago
      But nonexistence of technology isn't a proof of impossibility, or even particular hardness.
      - lapcat 2y ago
        You don't think it's hard to alter or completely redesign the human body to make it compatible with living on Mars? Ok, bud, whatever you need to tell yourself. I'm done here.

natch 2y ago

Who said the technology needs to exist now? Nobody. Again, just wild assumptions on your part. I’m not even saying the technology will exist. It just very likely will.

lapcat 2y ago
> It just very likely will. Again, just wild assumptions on your part.
- natch 2y ago
  Say what?