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wait, you actually believe all this dis-info? The CIA doesn't control Trump. They have been passively and actively subverting him since 2015. It's sad to see
by jpadkins 2y ago
wait, you actually believe all this dis-info?
The CIA doesn't control Trump. They have been passively and actively subverting him since 2015. It's sad to see someone fall for their psy-ops.
- tomrod 2y agoWhat here is disinformation?
- jpadkins 2y agoWhat here is disinformation? > The guy had secret meetings with Russian spies > when Trump gave away nuclear secrets > there were obvious spies from our adversaries working in top government positions > Russian sources "disappeared" after Trump outed them Almost all of the gp post was already disproven disinformation.
- tomrod 2y agoI've heard folks argue about these claims for a long time, and I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt as I've heard most of these as accurate. So, I wanted to see what some AI assistance could come up with. You may or may not like the results, depending on whether you think AI could never assist on something like, and if you agree it could, whether the results are meaningful to overcome the backfire effect.[0] Results are here [1], and I'll post below: https://chatgpt.com/share/67aa734b-6b0c-8001-8237-f4458c6dee8d https://chatgpt.com/share/67aa734b-6b0c-8001-8237-f4458c6dee... 1. The guy had secret meetings with Russian spies Partially True - https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/04/us/politics/trump-russia-carter-page.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/04/us/politics/trump-russia-... - Carter Page, a former Trump campaign adviser, was approached by Russian spies in 2013 who attempted to recruit him. While Page met with Russian officials, it's not confirmed that these were clandestine meetings with spies during his tenure with the Trump campaign. 2. When Trump gave away nuclear secrets True - https://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-allegedly-classified-documents-nuclear-programs/story?id=99968546 https://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-allegedly-classifi... - In a 49-page indictment unsealed in 2023, prosecutors allege that Trump had in his possession documents concerning the "nuclear programs" of the United States. 3. There were obvious spies from our adversaries working in top government positions Misinformation - No credible sources available - There is no verified evidence to support the claim that individuals identified as spies from adversarial nations held top positions within the U.S. government during Trump's administration. 4. Russian sources "disappeared" after Trump outed them True - https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/17/russian-sources-disappeared-after-trump-declassified-ex-spys-evidence-uk-court-told https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/17/russian-sour... - After Trump declassified evidence provided by a former British spy regarding his alleged links to Russia, certain Russian sources reportedly vanished. [0] https://theoatmeal.com/comics/believe_clean https://theoatmeal.com/comics/believe_clean [1] https://chatgpt.com/share/67aa734b-6b0c-8001-8237-f4458c6dee8d https://chatgpt.com/share/67aa734b-6b0c-8001-8237-f4458c6dee...
- jpadkins 2y agoThank you for the thoughtful reply. Note that all the citations are USAID funded media orgs and have deep ties to the CIA or the IC. Also note that their sources are all basically IC sources + DOJ allegations. This supports my original statement that this is all a large scale disinformation campaign aimed at the American people. The CIA has conducted these operations for decades, and now they are doing it to us. As Chuck Schumer so eloquently put it "They have six ways to Sunday at getting back at you" https://www.aclu.org/news/national-security/do-us-politicians-need-fear-our-intelligence https://www.aclu.org/news/national-security/do-us-politician...
- tomrod 2y agoFor logic, coherency, and rationality, your positive claim requires quite a bit more proof. Apply Hitchen's razor.