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Tell that to the Potomac victims...you cant can you?

LastTrain 2y ago
I'm not in a position to tell them anything. If I were, I would try and convey that I understand nothing can replace what they've lost, but the cause of the accident will be investigated and determined. Recommendations from that investigation will result in procedures being added to cannon of safety measures to help prevent future similar tragedies. What would you tell them?
BenjiWiebe 2y ago
The Potomac crash was terrible, horrible. However, on average there's that many car crash victims in the US in less than 24 hours. There's been ~10 times as many fatalities from car crashes (going by averages here) since the Potomac crash as there was in the Potomac crash. And yet there aren't huge news articles about how we're investigating and going to fix it...
- j16sdiz 2y ago
  > And yet there aren't huge news articles about how we're investigating and going to fix it... Of course we ain't. How else could Tesla be so efficient?
TeaBrain 2y ago
That turned out to be the fault of the helicopter pilot, who was flying above the allowed limit.
- LastTrain 2y ago
  The cause of that accident has not been determined, and when it is it won't be as simplistic as that.
  - TeaBrain 2y ago
    Sure, the sensors collecting the altitude data might have been faulty, but the helicopter pilot was reportedly 50% higher than was allowed. You would think that an experienced helicopter pilot would be able to gauge that they were a full 50% above the allowed limit. From the reported information, I'm not sure there is reason to believe that it was much more complicated than altitude misjudgement on the part of the helicopter pilot, unless they were somehow unaware of the allowed limits in that airspace.
    - calfuris 2y ago
      If something was caused by pilot error, there's nothing you can really do except shrug and hope it doesn't happen again. It's an intuitively appealing explanation, and usually wrong. The aviation community has spent decades rejecting that instinct and looking for contributing factors that can be addressed. Those other factors are almost always present, and improvements can then be made. The net result of this process is that aviation has become incredibly safe, which would not have happened if people were content to say "eh, it was probably pilot error."

I'm not in a position to tell them anything. If I were, I would try and convey that I understand nothing can replace what they've lost, but the cause of the accident will be investigated and determined. Recommendations from that investigation will result in procedures being added to cannon of safety measures to help prevent future similar tragedies. What would you tell them?

BenjiWiebe 2y ago

The Potomac crash was terrible, horrible. However, on average there's that many car crash victims in the US in less than 24 hours. There's been ~10 times as many fatalities from car crashes (going by averages here) since the Potomac crash as there was in the Potomac crash. And yet there aren't huge news articles about how we're investigating and going to fix it...

j16sdiz 2y ago
> And yet there aren't huge news articles about how we're investigating and going to fix it... Of course we ain't. How else could Tesla be so efficient?

TeaBrain 2y ago

That turned out to be the fault of the helicopter pilot, who was flying above the allowed limit.

LastTrain 2y ago
The cause of that accident has not been determined, and when it is it won't be as simplistic as that.
- TeaBrain 2y ago
  Sure, the sensors collecting the altitude data might have been faulty, but the helicopter pilot was reportedly 50% higher than was allowed. You would think that an experienced helicopter pilot would be able to gauge that they were a full 50% above the allowed limit. From the reported information, I'm not sure there is reason to believe that it was much more complicated than altitude misjudgement on the part of the helicopter pilot, unless they were somehow unaware of the allowed limits in that airspace.
  - calfuris 2y ago
    If something was caused by pilot error, there's nothing you can really do except shrug and hope it doesn't happen again. It's an intuitively appealing explanation, and usually wrong. The aviation community has spent decades rejecting that instinct and looking for contributing factors that can be addressed. Those other factors are almost always present, and improvements can then be made. The net result of this process is that aviation has become incredibly safe, which would not have happened if people were content to say "eh, it was probably pilot error."