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Computers have the option of a replacement hardware where humans do not. Perhaps to tweak the analogy and suggest the computer is specialist hardware running so
by cjbgkagh 2y ago
Computers have the option of a replacement hardware where humans do not. Perhaps to tweak the analogy and suggest the computer is specialist hardware running software designed for it that runs a stupidly expensive CNC made by a company that no longer exists. That changes the equation such that spending more than the computer hardware is worth is now worthwhile.
And 2. If you have chronic fatigue it’s nothing like fatigue a healthy person would experience - it’s next level. There were some thoughts to change the name to mild paralysis because sometimes you can be so fatigued that you literally cannot move.
There are objective ways to measure it. Post Exertional Malaise has a number of tests, two day max exertion test for one. There are also immuno assays which are pretty definitive. You can take plasma from someone with ME/CFS introduce healthy white blood cells, expose it to a salt water stress test and measure how quick the cells run out of energy and the results are definitive here too. Hard to fake that.
As for the subjectivity, when looking at post viral fatigue there seems to be 3 categories of people; 1 people who appear to be incapable of getting post viral fatigue, they'd die before reaching some threshold which suggests that there is a genetic aspect to susceptibility. 2 people who grew up with a progressive ME/CFS who are highly susceptive to post viral fatigue but consider the fatigue within their normal experience. 3 people who don't have ME/CFS but are at least partially susceptible, specially with Covid, and anecdotal accounts of their experience tends to have a common thread of never had experienced that level of fatigue before in their entire lives.
- sarchertech 2y agoThe author never used the term chronic fatigue. Maybe they had such severe fatigue they couldn't move, but there's no reason to think this his the case. As for Post Exertional Malaise, again maybe this was a complaint of theirs, but they only mentioned slow recovery times. If their symptoms are severe, they're really underselling them with their descriptions. >That changes the equation such that spending more than the computer hardware is worth is now worthwhile. The worthwhile point of that particular analogy is comparing invasive procedures. Doing invasive procedures like wiping the hard drive and reinstalling the OS vs non invasive testing. You get to a point where invasive testing is only worthwhile if the symptoms are severe enough because of the risks involved in invasive procedures.
- cjbgkagh 2y agoI was talking in generalities beyond the original reddit author. I would not call a PEM test invasive but I would consider it likely damaging and wouldn't recommend in general. A blood draw is hardly invasive and there is absolutely no reason why the tests cannot be cheap. Like $5 cheap - far cheaper than the $100K this person already spent.
- sarchertech 2y ago>A blood draw is hardly invasive and there is absolutely no reason why the tests cannot be cheap Sure that's not an example of an invasive test.