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Problem is that you don't know this until you've bought the game, and that creates incentive for the developer to only include them after the refund period.

by junon 2y ago

nottorp 2y ago
Umm aren't the IAPs clearly marked? On the ios app store at least. On Steam I only buy based on 3rd party mentions/reviews so I don't really know what's written on the storefront if it's a free to play game because I've never been to the storefront of a free to play game. I never preorder btw. Okay, with two exceptions: FromSoft single player games (not getting the new multiplayer thingy) and Kojima. Until they burn me too.
- Suzuran 2y ago
  No, not at all. I have several games on my "I Wasted My Money" pile where IAPs or in-game advertisements were added in patches well after release. Edit: This practice is why policies such as this one being enacted are now necessary. Were it not for policies preventing these sort of practices, they would be far more common.
  - nottorp 2y ago
    Hmm it only happened to me once. When EA bought popcap and the turned my plants vs zombies for iOS into an IAP fest. That made me notice that most mobile games have turned free to play and I simply stopped looking for them. No more gaming on my iPad. Would you mind naming and shaming your own "I Wasted My Money" pile if it's PC titles?
    - Suzuran 2y ago
      The problem is that I would have to remember them all; It's a metaphorical pile, not a literal one. A large majority are games where the DRM no longer works for whatever reason (Silent Hunter 3 and 4 come to mind), but games where malware/microtransactions/etc. were added after release or not disclosed prior to release included Civilization 6 and Red Orchestra 2. IIRC the latter game specifically is why Valve added the ability to read the EULA prior to purchase, as the ads were only disclosed in the EULA and the EULA was available only after purchase. (Edit: I don't consider piracy/cracks a solution to DRM. Solutions solve problems. Piracy and cracks are workarounds at best. The problem is still there.)
reginald78 2y ago
With updates you actually never know. They can add them to what you purchased at any time. They can even turn your purchased product into a F2P crapfest.

Problem is that you don't know this until you've bought the game, and that creates incentive for the developer to only include them after the refund period.

by junon 2y ago

Problem is that you don't know this until you've bought the game, and that creates incentive for the developer to only include them after the refund period.

nottorp 2y ago

Umm aren't the IAPs clearly marked? On the ios app store at least. On Steam I only buy based on 3rd party mentions/reviews so I don't really know what's written on the storefront if it's a free to play game because I've never been to the storefront of a free to play game. I never preorder btw. Okay, with two exceptions: FromSoft single player games (not getting the new multiplayer thingy) and Kojima. Until they burn me too.

Suzuran 2y ago
No, not at all. I have several games on my "I Wasted My Money" pile where IAPs or in-game advertisements were added in patches well after release. Edit: This practice is why policies such as this one being enacted are now necessary. Were it not for policies preventing these sort of practices, they would be far more common.
- nottorp 2y ago
  Hmm it only happened to me once. When EA bought popcap and the turned my plants vs zombies for iOS into an IAP fest. That made me notice that most mobile games have turned free to play and I simply stopped looking for them. No more gaming on my iPad. Would you mind naming and shaming your own "I Wasted My Money" pile if it's PC titles?
  - Suzuran 2y ago
    The problem is that I would have to remember them all; It's a metaphorical pile, not a literal one. A large majority are games where the DRM no longer works for whatever reason (Silent Hunter 3 and 4 come to mind), but games where malware/microtransactions/etc. were added after release or not disclosed prior to release included Civilization 6 and Red Orchestra 2. IIRC the latter game specifically is why Valve added the ability to read the EULA prior to purchase, as the ads were only disclosed in the EULA and the EULA was available only after purchase. (Edit: I don't consider piracy/cracks a solution to DRM. Solutions solve problems. Piracy and cracks are workarounds at best. The problem is still there.)

reginald78 2y ago

With updates you actually never know. They can add them to what you purchased at any time. They can even turn your purchased product into a F2P crapfest.