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I doubt that they are any better because most of the issues are caused by poor design.
by aeyes 2y ago
I doubt that they are any better because most of the issues are caused by poor design.
- theshrike79 2y agoThey do have less panel gaps and other minor flaws, because the people putting them together in Germany actually care (and have unions and proper working hours so they're not exhausted).
- usr1106 2y agoI am not sure how much unions are present in German Tesla factories. They are certainly very present in every other German car factory. Tesla does not accept unions. In Sweden, which is unionized to a higher degree than Germany, Tesla's service (no factory there) is in continuous labor conflict with Tesla who thinks they can act as irresponsibly as their owner.
- ivan_gammel 2y agoIG Metall is there (at least 10% of total staff) and of course there's a workers council, where they have seats.
- sshine 2y agoI also believe the amount of panel gaps varies a lot per factory.
- theshrike79 2y agoAnecdotal evidence says that there is less variance in the German made ones. The others are a lottery. You might get a perfect one or you might get one where the doors barely close
- dzhiurgis 2y agoPanel gaps on most utilitarian family car mean near 0, esp. around reliability.
- manmal 2y agoIt’s a good proxy for care taken and fs given during production.
- dzhiurgis 2y agoPlenty of cars for you then. Only pity you pay 2x price for 1/2 features. But at least it looks good!
- manmal 2y agoThat’s IMO cope from Tesla fans. I’d take a KIA/Hyundai or Audi anytime over a Tesla.
- dzhiurgis 2y agoMight be in your market. Audi costs easily 2x for abysmal specs and reliability. Kia/Hyundai is better deal, but they are such bare cars it's almost like driving 90s Toyota. Spec them out to base Tesla (i.e. power seats, power liftgate, heated steering wheel, etc) and price is 1.5x higher.
- bdangubic 2y agoif you drove them you would say otherwise. I have Tesla S and Audi eTron, price comparable ($90k) while the difference is like between a Harley and Vespa. and I am the least Tesla “fan” on the planet and think Elon is the saddest person that ever lived on this planet
- sshine 2y agoWhat features are Teslas missing out on?
- dzhiurgis 2y agoNotably v2l, 360 cameras and bullet proof auto-wipers. Rest of industry missing everything else that Tesla's had a for a decade.