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> On Sunday December 1, when I got home, I tried to update the Operating System again. No luck. Same problem again, the download hung halfway. This is a common

> On Sunday December 1, when I got home, I tried to update the Operating System again. No luck. Same problem again, the download hung halfway. This is a common problem. I also have a severe dislike of the Tesla updating process. I have the feeling that it's made for people who have a garage with 24/7 wifi. Without that, you're out of luck. In Okt and Dec of last year I have spent 4 hours per month on updating. This is with a 2020 Model 3. The solution by the way for this problem is probably to go into the service mode and reinstall the software [1]. It will give some nasty warnings but it should work. I tested it myself once and for me it worked. Another note: > But this is Tesla, and it seems like no one is behind the wheel. Yes that's true. It's very hard to get support and I also have some gripes about how some serious problems are not fixed. Tesla does have amazing online manuals though so that does alleviate the situation a bit. Also, if I need service I learned it's best to just walk into the service centre and ask there. They are very reasonable then. Just don't try any digital way. There is no point. [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/comments/x00cbj/comment/im9nt9d https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/comments/x00cbj/comment...

coldtea 2y ago
>I also have a severe dislike of the Tesla updating process. There being an "updating process" is already a huge red flag for a car.
- mschuster91 2y ago
  Better than shitty software that, say, has serious issues with stuff as simple as connecting a phone via Bluetooth, and can't be upgraded on your own at all, no, it has to be done at an authorised dealership.
  - huijzer 2y ago
    Oh yeah that’s the other thing. The software still has multiple bugs. But in general I appreciate the updates. I just wish the update process to be (much) easier. I have sometimes been sitting an hour at the dealer at night just to download the update. Feels like a massive waste of time IMO. I bought the car so that it can provide service for me not the other way around.
    - zoover2020 2y ago
      Ironically, have you tried any modern vehicle with good software? I can install updates at any point in time as long as they're downloaded through my, uh, Tesla app.
- x187463 2y ago
  Every modern car has, at least, a media player interface. Why wouldn't you want to be able to update that software to support changes in CarPlay, modern apps, etc?
- jeroenhd 2y ago
  Cars have had computers for decades now. Before the age of OTA updates, whenever one of those computers had a problem, a recall was issued and you needed to physically take the car to a dealer, probably pay some kind of service fee, and have them plug something into a hidden slot somewhere to flash an update. Other times they'd just swap out the physical computer (call it a "part") and throw out the buggy one. I don't like the modern 'car OS as a service' system where every month or so defects need to be fixed for some reason, but OTA is a hell of a lot better than the system before software updates became available to consumers.
  - mrbadguy 2y ago
    That’s simply untrue. The old way was definitely better because, with OTA, the manufacturers will succumb to the usual web-software bullshit of “we don’t have to sell them something that actually works now, we’ll just push the update later”. I mean, it’s a car, I can easily take it to a garage and do so for anything else that might be wrong (if I can’t fix it myself) so I don’t see the problem in doing so for software patches. OTA doesn’t solve many issues for me but it sure as hell will create new ones.

coldtea 2y ago

>I also have a severe dislike of the Tesla updating process. There being an "updating process" is already a huge red flag for a car.

mschuster91 2y ago
Better than shitty software that, say, has serious issues with stuff as simple as connecting a phone via Bluetooth, and can't be upgraded on your own at all, no, it has to be done at an authorised dealership.
- huijzer 2y ago
  Oh yeah that’s the other thing. The software still has multiple bugs. But in general I appreciate the updates. I just wish the update process to be (much) easier. I have sometimes been sitting an hour at the dealer at night just to download the update. Feels like a massive waste of time IMO. I bought the car so that it can provide service for me not the other way around.
  - zoover2020 2y ago
    Ironically, have you tried any modern vehicle with good software? I can install updates at any point in time as long as they're downloaded through my, uh, Tesla app.
x187463 2y ago
Every modern car has, at least, a media player interface. Why wouldn't you want to be able to update that software to support changes in CarPlay, modern apps, etc?
jeroenhd 2y ago
Cars have had computers for decades now. Before the age of OTA updates, whenever one of those computers had a problem, a recall was issued and you needed to physically take the car to a dealer, probably pay some kind of service fee, and have them plug something into a hidden slot somewhere to flash an update. Other times they'd just swap out the physical computer (call it a "part") and throw out the buggy one. I don't like the modern 'car OS as a service' system where every month or so defects need to be fixed for some reason, but OTA is a hell of a lot better than the system before software updates became available to consumers.
- mrbadguy 2y ago
  That’s simply untrue. The old way was definitely better because, with OTA, the manufacturers will succumb to the usual web-software bullshit of “we don’t have to sell them something that actually works now, we’ll just push the update later”. I mean, it’s a car, I can easily take it to a garage and do so for anything else that might be wrong (if I can’t fix it myself) so I don’t see the problem in doing so for software patches. OTA doesn’t solve many issues for me but it sure as hell will create new ones.