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If Elon wasn't so busy talking crap on Twitter all day long, he could maybe pick up on stories like these if it went viral, and get something done. This is unac

by sgt 2y ago

If Elon wasn't so busy talking crap on Twitter all day long, he could maybe pick up on stories like these if it went viral, and get something done. This is unacceptable. Teslas, in principle, are great cars.

coldtea 2y ago
>Teslas, in principle, are great cars. What principle? Aside from mouth gaping nerdy admiration early on ("oh EV! oh, sportcars! Oh, it can ~kill y~ drive itself! Oh, shiny panels"), they'd been nothing but trouble for a decade now. And let's not get started on the Cybertruck either.
- gambiting 2y ago
  I agree with the sentiment that they are really terrible cars in general, but they seem to have cracked the EV efficiency riddle, almost no one else can come close to their miles/kWh numbers in real life usage. I don't know how they do it, but it's just consistently at the top of the league among EVs.
  - marmarama 2y ago
    It's aerodynamics, pure and simple. The Model 3 coefficient of drag is very low. It's one of the reasons the Model 3 looks a little weird. It's pretty easy to replicate by other manufacturers, but aerodynamics is just one factor in a large number of tradeoffs made by a manufacturer when designing a car.
- nxm 2y ago
  https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-reliability-owner-satisfaction/tesla-and-nissan-make-the-most-reliable-electric-vehicles-a1003912076/ https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-reliability-owner-s... The Tesla Model 3 is now the second most reliable new electric vehicle you can buy. Only the new-for-2022 Kia EV6 is more trouble-free, but we don’t know whether it will match the proven record of the Model 3 as it ages. Data from over a thousand Tesla Model 3 owners tell us that every model year going back to 2018 has either average or better reliability.
  - coldtea 2y ago
    >The Tesla Model 3 is now the second most reliable new electric vehicle you can buy More like Consumer Reports is the most reliable praise you can buy :)
- sgt 2y ago
  What I mean is - I've driven a small selection of EV's, and the Tesla's usually have been setting the bar pretty high. This is changing nowadays however, with increasing competition. I've never seen the Cybertruck in person but I've driven a Model 3 and a Model S recently, and I think the quality is still pretty high. The performance is excellent and the UX is great. As for the customer service, I can't say much as I've never owned a Tesla.
- robotresearcher 2y ago
  Have you driven one? The Model 3, particularly the 2024 update+, is super fun to drive. Zips around town really nicely. There's very little to maintain. Most of them don't go wrong, so the dominant experience is the above. +The new model is usefully more quiet and has better suspension. Previous were a bit rattly and very noisy.

by sgt 2y ago

coldtea 2y ago

>Teslas, in principle, are great cars. What principle? Aside from mouth gaping nerdy admiration early on ("oh EV! oh, sportcars! Oh, it can ~kill y~ drive itself! Oh, shiny panels"), they'd been nothing but trouble for a decade now. And let's not get started on the Cybertruck either.

gambiting 2y ago
I agree with the sentiment that they are really terrible cars in general, but they seem to have cracked the EV efficiency riddle, almost no one else can come close to their miles/kWh numbers in real life usage. I don't know how they do it, but it's just consistently at the top of the league among EVs.
- marmarama 2y ago
  It's aerodynamics, pure and simple. The Model 3 coefficient of drag is very low. It's one of the reasons the Model 3 looks a little weird. It's pretty easy to replicate by other manufacturers, but aerodynamics is just one factor in a large number of tradeoffs made by a manufacturer when designing a car.
nxm 2y ago
https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-reliability-owner-satisfaction/tesla-and-nissan-make-the-most-reliable-electric-vehicles-a1003912076/ https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-reliability-owner-s... The Tesla Model 3 is now the second most reliable new electric vehicle you can buy. Only the new-for-2022 Kia EV6 is more trouble-free, but we don’t know whether it will match the proven record of the Model 3 as it ages. Data from over a thousand Tesla Model 3 owners tell us that every model year going back to 2018 has either average or better reliability.
- coldtea 2y ago
  >The Tesla Model 3 is now the second most reliable new electric vehicle you can buy More like Consumer Reports is the most reliable praise you can buy :)
sgt 2y ago
What I mean is - I've driven a small selection of EV's, and the Tesla's usually have been setting the bar pretty high. This is changing nowadays however, with increasing competition. I've never seen the Cybertruck in person but I've driven a Model 3 and a Model S recently, and I think the quality is still pretty high. The performance is excellent and the UX is great. As for the customer service, I can't say much as I've never owned a Tesla.
robotresearcher 2y ago
Have you driven one? The Model 3, particularly the 2024 update+, is super fun to drive. Zips around town really nicely. There's very little to maintain. Most of them don't go wrong, so the dominant experience is the above. +The new model is usefully more quiet and has better suspension. Previous were a bit rattly and very noisy.