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Yeah? Like in a normal text editor? Please write: echo "12345789" and insert the missing number without deleting the already existing numbers in a vanilla

by atoav 2y ago

Yeah? Like in a normal text editor? Please write: echo "12345789" and insert the missing number without deleting the already existing numbers in a vanilla (non-emacs, non-vim) terminal. In nearly every other editable text field people know well in their lived (including the one you typed in for this comment) you can move your cursor to the middle of a sentence and insert text with a mouse click or the left/right arrow key. And before someone suggest some option to enable this: my comment was about changing the defaults.

drcursor 2y ago
just use fc (fix command)
skydhash 2y ago
The terminal model is just to display the text that the currently running software provides and send input to it. It’s not a text editor. The prompt is a feature of the shell and other REPL programs, not the terminal. Bash and Zsh and others use readline which allows text editing like navigation [0]. And there’s rlwrap for programs that lack these. [0]: https://readline.kablamo.org/emacs.html https://readline.kablamo.org/emacs.html
wpm 2y ago
Press left arrow four time and type “6”.
joh6nn 2y ago
Using the arrow keys to navigate the current input is well supported on most modern terminals, and has been for most of my adult life. If this isn't working properly in your terminal, then I'd recommend experimenting with the various settings available to you. Some terminals also support mouse navigation, so keep an eye out for that as well. I'm sorry that you've been dealing with this frustration for so long and under the impression that it was just supposed to be that way and not fixable. The good news is that it's NOT supposed to be that frustrating and you CAN fix it Edit: you edited your comment somewhere between my first seeing it and my reply posting. I haven't had to modify the default settings on my terminal to fix things like this in about 20 years. I've changed them to tweak various preferences like scrollback, cursor shape/size, etc. But arrow navigation has worked out of the box for me for so long that I literally can't remember when I last had to fix it. I don't know why our experiences have been so different, but I'm sorry that a tool that has been so useful for me has been so frustrating for you.
- crabbone 2y ago
  I see this in situations when terminal relies on readline() to do this stuff, but that isn't installed.
toast0 2y ago
I've not had luck with selecting a position with my mouse in a terminal shell, but arrow keys is rarely a problem. Old enough terminal or old enough host, sure, there can be some fighting involved. Of course, working in those conditions, sometimes backspace doesn't work either and you have to hit ctrl-H like an animal. But I haven't had issues with that lately.
mixmastamyk 2y ago
No option is needed, it’s worked this way since the 90s at least. Mouse is not commonly enabled but would be inefficient to use as hands are already on the keyboard. I haven’t missed it, but it could be set up with a script, no? If arrow keys not working for you, install a new distro.
xboxnolifes 2y ago
You can do this in the default windows Terminal. Which is also how I interface with WSL, so it's also my Linux terminal.

by atoav 2y ago

drcursor 2y ago

just use fc (fix command)

skydhash 2y ago

The terminal model is just to display the text that the currently running software provides and send input to it. It’s not a text editor. The prompt is a feature of the shell and other REPL programs, not the terminal. Bash and Zsh and others use readline which allows text editing like navigation [0]. And there’s rlwrap for programs that lack these. [0]: https://readline.kablamo.org/emacs.html https://readline.kablamo.org/emacs.html

wpm 2y ago

Press left arrow four time and type “6”.

joh6nn 2y ago

Using the arrow keys to navigate the current input is well supported on most modern terminals, and has been for most of my adult life. If this isn't working properly in your terminal, then I'd recommend experimenting with the various settings available to you. Some terminals also support mouse navigation, so keep an eye out for that as well. I'm sorry that you've been dealing with this frustration for so long and under the impression that it was just supposed to be that way and not fixable. The good news is that it's NOT supposed to be that frustrating and you CAN fix it Edit: you edited your comment somewhere between my first seeing it and my reply posting. I haven't had to modify the default settings on my terminal to fix things like this in about 20 years. I've changed them to tweak various preferences like scrollback, cursor shape/size, etc. But arrow navigation has worked out of the box for me for so long that I literally can't remember when I last had to fix it. I don't know why our experiences have been so different, but I'm sorry that a tool that has been so useful for me has been so frustrating for you.

crabbone 2y ago
I see this in situations when terminal relies on readline() to do this stuff, but that isn't installed.

toast0 2y ago

I've not had luck with selecting a position with my mouse in a terminal shell, but arrow keys is rarely a problem. Old enough terminal or old enough host, sure, there can be some fighting involved. Of course, working in those conditions, sometimes backspace doesn't work either and you have to hit ctrl-H like an animal. But I haven't had issues with that lately.

mixmastamyk 2y ago

No option is needed, it’s worked this way since the 90s at least. Mouse is not commonly enabled but would be inefficient to use as hands are already on the keyboard. I haven’t missed it, but it could be set up with a script, no? If arrow keys not working for you, install a new distro.

xboxnolifes 2y ago

You can do this in the default windows Terminal. Which is also how I interface with WSL, so it's also my Linux terminal.