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Personal sites are dead because the Internet search is broken. I personal sites could easily be found, and filtered, or sorted to provide interesting ones, the

Personal sites are dead because the Internet search is broken. I personal sites could easily be found, and filtered, or sorted to provide interesting ones, then Personal sites would be booming. That is why I created my own domains list: https://github.com/rumca-js/Internet-Places-Database https://github.com/rumca-js/Internet-Places-Database It contains links with properties in JSON. I can find personal things using "personal" tags. I can filter them using numerical "page_rating_votes".

nthingtohide 2y ago
I think Google should create a walled garden of blogsearch, on the lines of Google Scholar, have some top-down verfication of good content / blogs. In the age of AI, such a product could act as a discovery mechanism for authentic human writings which could be included in training data for LLMs (uncontaminated steel even in age of AI).
- MrVandemar 2y ago
  What an appalling idea. 1. A walled garden? Run by Google? Aside from locking this discoverability away in a walled garden, how many years before Google kills it out of corporate disinterest? 2. So, blogs with Google tracking promoted higher? Blogs with copyright information excluded as it is not legal for LLM's to train on it? What do you think would happen? It's fraught with problems.
  - nthingtohide 2y ago
    I think if Google hadn't killed Google Reader, the metadata from blogs and reading habits of populace would be so invaluable in today's LLM world. It would be sort of loosely speaking its own kind of social network for powerusers, every other opinion is downstream or rehashing from that.
Justta 2y ago
It's not possible for search engine to find blogs after 2000. Twitter, HN, and even other social networking sites is better.
MrVandemar 2y ago
> Personal sites are dead because the Internet search is broken. Personal sites are not dead. I've got one, and it is entirely fulfilling its function. Other people have them too. Internet search is pretty broken, I'll agree with you. That said, Kagi and Marginalia both seem to tackle the problems with surfacing old and/or independent content. And people are bypassing the search-engines by constructing link pages, link blogs and web-rings, and seem to be doing fine.
ethanol-brain 2y ago
Can always go back to the days of these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webring https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webring https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_directory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_directory
brisray 2y ago
Personal sites ARE getting more difficult to find, more than ever, but there's thousands of them around. It's why I upkeep a list of current webrings - https://brisray.com/web/webring-list.htm https://brisray.com/web/webring-list.htm , a list of personal web directories - https://brisray.com/web/indiedirs.htm https://brisray.com/web/indiedirs.htm - and "alternative" search engines that can find them - https://brisray.com/web/altsearch.htm https://brisray.com/web/altsearch.htm

nthingtohide 2y ago

I think Google should create a walled garden of blogsearch, on the lines of Google Scholar, have some top-down verfication of good content / blogs. In the age of AI, such a product could act as a discovery mechanism for authentic human writings which could be included in training data for LLMs (uncontaminated steel even in age of AI).

MrVandemar 2y ago
What an appalling idea. 1. A walled garden? Run by Google? Aside from locking this discoverability away in a walled garden, how many years before Google kills it out of corporate disinterest? 2. So, blogs with Google tracking promoted higher? Blogs with copyright information excluded as it is not legal for LLM's to train on it? What do you think would happen? It's fraught with problems.
- nthingtohide 2y ago
  I think if Google hadn't killed Google Reader, the metadata from blogs and reading habits of populace would be so invaluable in today's LLM world. It would be sort of loosely speaking its own kind of social network for powerusers, every other opinion is downstream or rehashing from that.

Justta 2y ago

It's not possible for search engine to find blogs after 2000. Twitter, HN, and even other social networking sites is better.

MrVandemar 2y ago

> Personal sites are dead because the Internet search is broken. Personal sites are not dead. I've got one, and it is entirely fulfilling its function. Other people have them too. Internet search is pretty broken, I'll agree with you. That said, Kagi and Marginalia both seem to tackle the problems with surfacing old and/or independent content. And people are bypassing the search-engines by constructing link pages, link blogs and web-rings, and seem to be doing fine.

ethanol-brain 2y ago

Can always go back to the days of these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webring https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webring https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_directory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_directory

brisray 2y ago

Personal sites ARE getting more difficult to find, more than ever, but there's thousands of them around. It's why I upkeep a list of current webrings - https://brisray.com/web/webring-list.htm https://brisray.com/web/webring-list.htm , a list of personal web directories - https://brisray.com/web/indiedirs.htm https://brisray.com/web/indiedirs.htm - and "alternative" search engines that can find them - https://brisray.com/web/altsearch.htm https://brisray.com/web/altsearch.htm