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Any chance of implementing a backend "merge items" feature that redirects dupes to the canonical item?

by alsoforgotmypwd 2y ago

dang 2y ago
Can you give a bit more technical detail of what you have in mind?
- ergl 2y ago
  Lobste.rs has what they call "merged stories", where the moderator will merge into a single page the links for a few submissions, as well as the comments from all submissions. Here's a recent example: https://lobste.rs/s/djejmh/really_really_good_random_number https://lobste.rs/s/djejmh/really_really_good_random_number I guess it's similar to what you do here when you "move" comments from one submission to another. A downside is that it can be hard to know which comments come from which submission. Perhaps top-level comments need a small marker indicating which link they originally commented under?
  - pushcx 2y ago
    (I'm the Lobsters admin.) Comments from merged stories do have a label showing where the came from... but only before the merge; afterwards top-level comments are always attached to the primary story which is when things get especially confusing. For this and other reasons, I'm in the middle of revamping UI for the feature and the database model: https://github.com/lobsters/lobsters/issues/1456 https://github.com/lobsters/lobsters/issues/1456 If anyone is real curious about the fine details, I've done almost all of this feature work on Lobsters office hours streams: https://push.cx/tags#story-merging https://push.cx/tags#story-merging I plan to continue that work in about four hours on today's stream so it's a great time to ask questions: https://push.cx/stream https://push.cx/stream As a (much) smaller community, story merging has been valuable for allowing us to build the critical mass of a good discussion. We also avoid rehashing the basics/easy misunderstandings. It's a pretty similar to dang's motivation about wanting to promote novel discussions. I have joked for a couple years that I'd love to see HN copy the feature so that HN can teach everyone how the feature works.
iambateman 2y ago
You may know this, but exact duplicate submissions do get redirected to a single canonical item. But conceptually-linked ones of course don’t.
- cratermoon 2y ago
  > exact duplicate submissions do get redirected to a single canonical item Not always. There seems to be some issue with the exactness match. I haven't reported it because I presumed it was intentional. Well, that and there's no obvious bug submission process.

Any chance of implementing a backend "merge items" feature that redirects dupes to the canonical item?

dang 2y ago

Can you give a bit more technical detail of what you have in mind?

ergl 2y ago
Lobste.rs has what they call "merged stories", where the moderator will merge into a single page the links for a few submissions, as well as the comments from all submissions. Here's a recent example: https://lobste.rs/s/djejmh/really_really_good_random_number https://lobste.rs/s/djejmh/really_really_good_random_number I guess it's similar to what you do here when you "move" comments from one submission to another. A downside is that it can be hard to know which comments come from which submission. Perhaps top-level comments need a small marker indicating which link they originally commented under?
- pushcx 2y ago
  (I'm the Lobsters admin.) Comments from merged stories do have a label showing where the came from... but only before the merge; afterwards top-level comments are always attached to the primary story which is when things get especially confusing. For this and other reasons, I'm in the middle of revamping UI for the feature and the database model: https://github.com/lobsters/lobsters/issues/1456 https://github.com/lobsters/lobsters/issues/1456 If anyone is real curious about the fine details, I've done almost all of this feature work on Lobsters office hours streams: https://push.cx/tags#story-merging https://push.cx/tags#story-merging I plan to continue that work in about four hours on today's stream so it's a great time to ask questions: https://push.cx/stream https://push.cx/stream As a (much) smaller community, story merging has been valuable for allowing us to build the critical mass of a good discussion. We also avoid rehashing the basics/easy misunderstandings. It's a pretty similar to dang's motivation about wanting to promote novel discussions. I have joked for a couple years that I'd love to see HN copy the feature so that HN can teach everyone how the feature works.

iambateman 2y ago

You may know this, but exact duplicate submissions do get redirected to a single canonical item. But conceptually-linked ones of course don’t.

cratermoon 2y ago
> exact duplicate submissions do get redirected to a single canonical item Not always. There seems to be some issue with the exactness match. I haven't reported it because I presumed it was intentional. Well, that and there's no obvious bug submission process.