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> Women have been screwed over forever and still are. The first part of this sentence is correct, the later part isn’t. Women are now significantly privileged

> Women have been screwed over forever and still are. The first part of this sentence is correct, the later part isn’t. Women are now significantly privileged over men in educational and early career opportunities. The idea that this “balances out” is obviously false, because you’re talking about different generations. Young men being discriminated against now is just as unfair as it was to previous generations of women that were discriminated against in the past.

throwawaydjf 2y ago
Not in my experience. I’ve seen teams come up with justifications like that female candidates don’t have enough experience in certain technologies, won’t be good cultural fits, or not team players, all rationales that don’t get applied to male candidates. My favorite example is when hiring rockstar developers who are anti-social or toxic. For some reason, it’s ok to hire men who act that way, but totally unacceptable when women do. In startups, leadership goes along with it because they don’t have time to deal with it. In corporate environments HR doesn’t know enough to pushback or their KPIs are if they filled the open positions. The problem is that if you don’t want to hire someone, there so many different ways to disqualify them.
- scarab92 2y ago
  The problem is you’re clearly talking about this from the perspective of a personal anecdote. If you look at the general experiences of a young men, you’ll see that they are discriminated against in university admissions, in early career hiring and in early career promotion. This is justified by data points which average outcomes over different age groups. The result may be company wide gender balance, but when you break it down by age you see that the it’s not really a balance, it’s just discrimination against women in some cohorts and discrimination against men in others.
  - try_the_bass 2y ago
    Can you cite some of these data points and outcomes?
    - Ferret7446 2y ago
      A quick Google search should turn up tons of articles on boys failing in education. https://www.google.com/search?q=boy+education+crisis https://www.google.com/search?q=boy+education+crisis

throwawaydjf 2y ago

Not in my experience. I’ve seen teams come up with justifications like that female candidates don’t have enough experience in certain technologies, won’t be good cultural fits, or not team players, all rationales that don’t get applied to male candidates. My favorite example is when hiring rockstar developers who are anti-social or toxic. For some reason, it’s ok to hire men who act that way, but totally unacceptable when women do. In startups, leadership goes along with it because they don’t have time to deal with it. In corporate environments HR doesn’t know enough to pushback or their KPIs are if they filled the open positions. The problem is that if you don’t want to hire someone, there so many different ways to disqualify them.

scarab92 2y ago
The problem is you’re clearly talking about this from the perspective of a personal anecdote. If you look at the general experiences of a young men, you’ll see that they are discriminated against in university admissions, in early career hiring and in early career promotion. This is justified by data points which average outcomes over different age groups. The result may be company wide gender balance, but when you break it down by age you see that the it’s not really a balance, it’s just discrimination against women in some cohorts and discrimination against men in others.
- try_the_bass 2y ago
  Can you cite some of these data points and outcomes?
  - Ferret7446 2y ago
    A quick Google search should turn up tons of articles on boys failing in education. https://www.google.com/search?q=boy+education+crisis https://www.google.com/search?q=boy+education+crisis