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Is this going to be something we deal with after each election now? This just sounds like the 2020 election fraud conspiracies all over again.

beedeebeedee 2y ago
There was no evidence found of fraud during the 2020 election despite being contested and audited. This is evidence that is being discovered now, because the election was not contested by the losing candidate in 2024 and was not audited.
- Izkata 2y ago
  > and audited Assuming it was actually audited. The one I'm most aware of (one of the Arizona counties) was called an audit, but it wasn't an audit - it was a recount.
roenxi 2y ago
When looking at the sheer amount of money and power concentrated in the US government it doesn't make a lot of sense that the elections are consistently free of fraud. It is a bit like the weird jump in scandals out of politics between the pre-internet era and now. It turns out that the press just didn't report on a lot of things. Voter fraud will be similar, as the data becomes more public and people start coordinating more effectively a lot of dross is probably going to get turned up.
rcpt 2y ago
I think it'd be great if the security of every election were vigorously tested.
defrost 2y ago
The 2020 fraud stories involved Asian source bamboo paper, unverified claims of dumping mail in ballots, claims of many multiple voting people, dead voters ressurected, ... lots of claims that collapsed for want of any evidence despite being the kinds of claims that should be provable. This is a simple statement of statistical pattern weirdness in the bulk voting record of a county. I'm in Australia, I have a geostatistical and epidemiology background using such things to find valuable mineral deposits and early signs of unusual diseases. The statements made here are far more convincing of actual fraud than the 2020 claims .. if this repeats across many county's then it becomes more and more certain. If it's no more than a blip in a single county then it's just one of those things, for it to be fraud there would have to be similar patterns in multiple counties in swing states. The future then is a right old bucket of worms.
engineer_22 2y ago
Yeah, 2016 was the same "Russia" etc. We've got some issues to deal with
digitaltrees 2y ago
This is not coming from the Harris campaign. Seems like a material difference. Also a hit repo of the technology to do exactly the thing showing up in the data and then the author directly tied to the winning candidate is something that would be relevant in court. The 2020 court cases never had anything remotely close to that level of credibility. They are a joke.

beedeebeedee 2y ago

There was no evidence found of fraud during the 2020 election despite being contested and audited. This is evidence that is being discovered now, because the election was not contested by the losing candidate in 2024 and was not audited.

Izkata 2y ago
> and audited Assuming it was actually audited. The one I'm most aware of (one of the Arizona counties) was called an audit, but it wasn't an audit - it was a recount.

roenxi 2y ago

When looking at the sheer amount of money and power concentrated in the US government it doesn't make a lot of sense that the elections are consistently free of fraud. It is a bit like the weird jump in scandals out of politics between the pre-internet era and now. It turns out that the press just didn't report on a lot of things. Voter fraud will be similar, as the data becomes more public and people start coordinating more effectively a lot of dross is probably going to get turned up.

rcpt 2y ago

I think it'd be great if the security of every election were vigorously tested.

defrost 2y ago

The 2020 fraud stories involved Asian source bamboo paper, unverified claims of dumping mail in ballots, claims of many multiple voting people, dead voters ressurected, ... lots of claims that collapsed for want of any evidence despite being the kinds of claims that should be provable. This is a simple statement of statistical pattern weirdness in the bulk voting record of a county. I'm in Australia, I have a geostatistical and epidemiology background using such things to find valuable mineral deposits and early signs of unusual diseases. The statements made here are far more convincing of actual fraud than the 2020 claims .. if this repeats across many county's then it becomes more and more certain. If it's no more than a blip in a single county then it's just one of those things, for it to be fraud there would have to be similar patterns in multiple counties in swing states. The future then is a right old bucket of worms.

engineer_22 2y ago

Yeah, 2016 was the same "Russia" etc. We've got some issues to deal with

digitaltrees 2y ago

This is not coming from the Harris campaign. Seems like a material difference. Also a hit repo of the technology to do exactly the thing showing up in the data and then the author directly tied to the winning candidate is something that would be relevant in court. The 2020 court cases never had anything remotely close to that level of credibility. They are a joke.