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I don’t know how many flags it takes to flag kill a whole article, but the threshold for comments is two or three flags. It doesn’t take a lot of people to kill

I don’t know how many flags it takes to flag kill a whole article, but the threshold for comments is two or three flags. It doesn’t take a lot of people to kill an entire topic of discussion by flagging related articles, especially for users who only peruse the front page. Brigading on this site is almost trivial. Dang’s anti-flagging mechanism is the human factor that balances that very blunt automated system. People don’t seem to vouch for articles as much as for comments.

ctrlp 2y ago
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- epakai 2y ago
  It is the same feature. Maybe you haven't seen it because it is less visible. Dead submissions have a vouch link on the new page. Dead comments require clicking on the comment timestamp before the vouch link becomes visible. In either case you need showdead enabled on your profile, and to have met the karma threshold for vouch links to appear.
  - ctrlp 2y ago
    Once the comment disappears it is too late, no? How can an invisible comment be seen in order to be vouched or upvoted? I typically overlook grayed out or invisible comments unless I intentionally go looking for them.
    - epakai 2y ago
      It is not too late, but you have to enable showdead to see flagged/dead/banned posts (note: banned posts also get the [dead] tag). Unfortunately that comes with seeing some actually despicable posts. I'm not sure I'd recommend showdead, but there are sometimes reasoned or informative posts that get flagged due to hyperbolic statements. Probably worth trying it out just to be aware of how the sausage is made.
      - milesrout 2y ago
        I would personally appreciate a setting alongside showdead that disables the greying out of posts. It makes it very hard to read them. I am more than capable of ignoring things that I don't want to read.
- throwup238 2y ago
  > There should be an anti-downvoting/flagging facility Like upvoting and vouching? To be honest, I don’t think that comments are the problem. The community mostly does a good job of policing itself, especially once a thread gets enough visibility*. The problem is all the threads that get killed before they reach the front page (this post is a case in point). * Although I will admit there are glaring blindspots you could drive a Panamax tanker through (especially political ones on the boundary between ideologies).

ctrlp 2y ago

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epakai 2y ago
It is the same feature. Maybe you haven't seen it because it is less visible. Dead submissions have a vouch link on the new page. Dead comments require clicking on the comment timestamp before the vouch link becomes visible. In either case you need showdead enabled on your profile, and to have met the karma threshold for vouch links to appear.
- ctrlp 2y ago
  Once the comment disappears it is too late, no? How can an invisible comment be seen in order to be vouched or upvoted? I typically overlook grayed out or invisible comments unless I intentionally go looking for them.
  - epakai 2y ago
    It is not too late, but you have to enable showdead to see flagged/dead/banned posts (note: banned posts also get the [dead] tag). Unfortunately that comes with seeing some actually despicable posts. I'm not sure I'd recommend showdead, but there are sometimes reasoned or informative posts that get flagged due to hyperbolic statements. Probably worth trying it out just to be aware of how the sausage is made.
    - milesrout 2y ago
      I would personally appreciate a setting alongside showdead that disables the greying out of posts. It makes it very hard to read them. I am more than capable of ignoring things that I don't want to read.
throwup238 2y ago
> There should be an anti-downvoting/flagging facility Like upvoting and vouching? To be honest, I don’t think that comments are the problem. The community mostly does a good job of policing itself, especially once a thread gets enough visibility*. The problem is all the threads that get killed before they reach the front page (this post is a case in point). * Although I will admit there are glaring blindspots you could drive a Panamax tanker through (especially political ones on the boundary between ideologies).