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The stakes are high for these kids. They're obviously very talented individuals, but they're in deep. The reality probably isn't lost on them. I hope they st

The stakes are high for these kids. They're obviously very talented individuals, but they're in deep. The reality probably isn't lost on them. I hope they stay safe, they're doing important work.

totallymike 2y ago
Wait, what important work are they doing?
- engineer_22 2y ago
  Reportedly, seeking out fraud and mismanagement in federal government.
trickyager 2y ago
Are they, though? I'm not trying to be flippant. Rather, it's entirely unclear to me any positive outcome for these individuals or American citizen in general as a result of this effort. Can you provide vetted sources that accurately communciate actual benefits as a result of this effory for anyone other than Elon Musk and Donald Trump as individuals?
- try_the_bass 2y ago
  > Can you provide vetted sources that accurately communciate actual benefits as a result of this effory for anyone other than Elon Musk and Donald Trump as individuals? Can you provide such sources that communicate the benefits of this effort for only Elon Musk and Donald Trump? I have seen a lot of speculation on the matter, with much of it plausible, but nothing concrete and nothing that really stands up to intense scrutiny. At this point we're all working on a near-total information vacuum. To claim you know anything with certainty is presumptive, at best. To claim, with anything short of first-hand knowledge, that you both know exactly what is happening and exactly why it is happening is unbelievable. Or at least it should be, but as discussion around this topic indicates, it's actually quite believable. Which is really a shame.
- engineer_22 2y ago
  If they are actually reducing fraud and waste in government, then it's a benefit for American citizens. Some discussion centered on DOGE being a fraud, but no evidence of that, only speculation and hyperventilation.

The stakes are high for these kids. They're obviously very talented individuals, but they're in deep. The reality probably isn't lost on them. I hope they stay safe, they're doing important work.

totallymike 2y ago

Wait, what important work are they doing?

engineer_22 2y ago
Reportedly, seeking out fraud and mismanagement in federal government.

trickyager 2y ago

Are they, though? I'm not trying to be flippant. Rather, it's entirely unclear to me any positive outcome for these individuals or American citizen in general as a result of this effort. Can you provide vetted sources that accurately communciate actual benefits as a result of this effory for anyone other than Elon Musk and Donald Trump as individuals?

try_the_bass 2y ago
> Can you provide vetted sources that accurately communciate actual benefits as a result of this effory for anyone other than Elon Musk and Donald Trump as individuals? Can you provide such sources that communicate the benefits of this effort for only Elon Musk and Donald Trump? I have seen a lot of speculation on the matter, with much of it plausible, but nothing concrete and nothing that really stands up to intense scrutiny. At this point we're all working on a near-total information vacuum. To claim you know anything with certainty is presumptive, at best. To claim, with anything short of first-hand knowledge, that you both know exactly what is happening and exactly why it is happening is unbelievable. Or at least it should be, but as discussion around this topic indicates, it's actually quite believable. Which is really a shame.
engineer_22 2y ago
If they are actually reducing fraud and waste in government, then it's a benefit for American citizens. Some discussion centered on DOGE being a fraud, but no evidence of that, only speculation and hyperventilation.