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And now musk is calling for the impeachment of Judge Paul Engelmayer who blocked his department from accessing government payment/financial systems. https://th

And now musk is calling for the impeachment of Judge Paul Engelmayer who blocked his department from accessing government payment/financial systems. https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5134725-elon-musk-impeachment-demand/ https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5134725-elon-musk-impe... This should be mandatory reading for everyone who argues this is just fine: https://www.amazon.com/They-Thought-Were-Free-Germans/dp/022652583X/ https://www.amazon.com/They-Thought-Were-Free-Germans/dp/022...

koolba 2y ago
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- bloopernova 2y ago
  If it were you or I, we'd petition our representative. Musk can ask the speaker of the house directly, he can speak to the president directly. You or I do not have the access that musk has, nor do we have the amplified speech that he has. Please don't whatabout. That does nothing for any kind of conversation.
- intended 2y ago
  >"I want to tell you, Gorsuch, I want to tell you, Kavanaugh, you have released the whirlwind and you will pay the price," Schumer, who was then minority leader, said at the time. "You won't know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions." This was during the overturning of Roe v Wade. I can pull out statements from Greene suggesting execution as a quicker way to remove Nancy Pelosi. But Greene perhaps is just too easy. Trump has had some choice words too, eg after the inaugural prayer service, he called the reverend a "Radical Left hard line Trump hater" And lest people forget, the right - globally - plays offense. We would all love a truce for sure, I'd love to see it happen. Edit: I’ve seen this happen in a few threads. Examples of uncivil things being said by democrats. Except the examples are shorn of context, and typically it’s under a situation of immense duress. The Dem base today would want their representatives to say more forceful things - if only to reach PR parity. Elon is hoping to impeach a judge, who is enforcing the law, and what remains of the balance of powers. Saying this politely doesn’t pardon the act, nor does it delegitimize genuine outrage from an outrageous event. Losing reproductive rights, creating a global security crisis, are disastrous things.
UltraSane 2y ago
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- throwaway173738 2y ago
  If I’ve learned anything it’s that our citizenship should be irrevocable.
  - ben_w 2y ago
    All three citizenships? He's triple nationality, US, Canadian, South African. I thought that wasn't allowed under US law? That you allow dual, but if you're already dual and want to become a US cotizen, you have to give up one of the other two? Thinking about it, I won't be surprised if Canada takes his Canadian-ness away. Too close to Trump, who is repositioning the US to be a direct military threat.
  - UltraSane 2y ago
    Then he should spend the rest of his life in prison. And it has always been legal to revoke citizenship for naturalized citizens who also have citizenship in another country.
tootie 2y ago
They are ignoring the basic precepts of the constitution, have rendered Congress' authority to set budgets as moot, are threatening the judiciary and the press. I can't believe how sanguine this thread is. This is an absolute crisis.
- bloopernova 2y ago
  We'll never know the true nature of the commenters on HN. However I do wonder how many are useful idiots, propagandists, disinformation spreaders, or trolls. It is a crisis. Discarding any political leanings, just the economic fallout from this is going to be felt for years. Do none of these supporters have a 401k or savings?

koolba 2y ago

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bloopernova 2y ago
If it were you or I, we'd petition our representative. Musk can ask the speaker of the house directly, he can speak to the president directly. You or I do not have the access that musk has, nor do we have the amplified speech that he has. Please don't whatabout. That does nothing for any kind of conversation.
intended 2y ago
>"I want to tell you, Gorsuch, I want to tell you, Kavanaugh, you have released the whirlwind and you will pay the price," Schumer, who was then minority leader, said at the time. "You won't know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions." This was during the overturning of Roe v Wade. I can pull out statements from Greene suggesting execution as a quicker way to remove Nancy Pelosi. But Greene perhaps is just too easy. Trump has had some choice words too, eg after the inaugural prayer service, he called the reverend a "Radical Left hard line Trump hater" And lest people forget, the right - globally - plays offense. We would all love a truce for sure, I'd love to see it happen. Edit: I’ve seen this happen in a few threads. Examples of uncivil things being said by democrats. Except the examples are shorn of context, and typically it’s under a situation of immense duress. The Dem base today would want their representatives to say more forceful things - if only to reach PR parity. Elon is hoping to impeach a judge, who is enforcing the law, and what remains of the balance of powers. Saying this politely doesn’t pardon the act, nor does it delegitimize genuine outrage from an outrageous event. Losing reproductive rights, creating a global security crisis, are disastrous things.

UltraSane 2y ago

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throwaway173738 2y ago
If I’ve learned anything it’s that our citizenship should be irrevocable.
- ben_w 2y ago
  All three citizenships? He's triple nationality, US, Canadian, South African. I thought that wasn't allowed under US law? That you allow dual, but if you're already dual and want to become a US cotizen, you have to give up one of the other two? Thinking about it, I won't be surprised if Canada takes his Canadian-ness away. Too close to Trump, who is repositioning the US to be a direct military threat.
- UltraSane 2y ago
  Then he should spend the rest of his life in prison. And it has always been legal to revoke citizenship for naturalized citizens who also have citizenship in another country.

tootie 2y ago

They are ignoring the basic precepts of the constitution, have rendered Congress' authority to set budgets as moot, are threatening the judiciary and the press. I can't believe how sanguine this thread is. This is an absolute crisis.

bloopernova 2y ago
We'll never know the true nature of the commenters on HN. However I do wonder how many are useful idiots, propagandists, disinformation spreaders, or trolls. It is a crisis. Discarding any political leanings, just the economic fallout from this is going to be felt for years. Do none of these supporters have a 401k or savings?