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How is it overlooked that these people are simply both unhappy and helpless, as a result of the society they live in? The problem is they do not live in a democ

How is it overlooked that these people are simply both unhappy and helpless, as a result of the society they live in? The problem is they do not live in a democracy.

goda90 2y ago
From TFA: > These individuals are not idealists seeking to tear down the established order so that they can build a better society for everyone. Rather, they indiscriminately share hostile political rumors as a way to unleash chaos and mobilize individuals against the established order that fails to accord them the respect that they feel they personally deserve.
- throw0101d 2y ago
  Some of these individuals also want to cause pain to others, and feel it is unjust if the pain comes to them: > A federal prison here in Florida’s rural Panhandle lost much of its roof and fence during Hurricane Michael in October, forcing hundreds of inmates to relocate to a facility in Yazoo City, Miss., more than 400 miles away. > Since then, corrections officers have had to commute there to work, a seven-hour drive, for two-week stints. As of this week, thanks to the partial federal government shutdown, they will be doing it without pay — no paychecks and no reimbursement for gas, meals and laundry, expenses that can run hundreds of dollars per trip. […] > The shutdown on top of the hurricane has caused Ms. Minton to rethink a lot of things. > “I voted for him, and he’s the one who’s doing this,” she said of Mr. Trump. “I thought he was going to do good things. He’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting.” * https://archive.is/https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/07/us/florida-government-shutdown-marianna.html https://archive.is/https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/07/us/flo... “He’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting.” As Adam Serwer observed, the cruelty is the point: > We can hear the spectacle of cruel laughter throughout the Trump era. There were the border patrol agents cracking up at the crying immigrant children separated[1] from their families, and the Trump adviser who delighted white supremacists[2] when he mocked a child with down syndrome[3] who was separated from her mother. There were the police who laughed uproariously when the president encouraged them to abuse[4] suspects, and the Fox News hosts mocking a survivor of the Pulse Nightclub massacre[5] (and in the process inundating him with threats), the survivors of sexual assault protesting Senator Jeff Flake,[6] the women who said the president sexually assaulted them,[7] and the teen survivors of the Parkland school shooting.[8] There was the president mocking Puerto Rican accents[9] shortly after thousands were killed and tens of thousands displaced by Hurricane Maria, the black athletes protesting unjustified killings by police, the women of the #MeToo movement[10] who have come forward with stories of sexual abuse, and the disabled reporter whose crime was reporting on Trump truthfully. It is not just that they enjoy this cruelty, it is that they enjoy it with each other. Their shared laughter at the suffering of others is an adhesive that binds them to each other, and to Trump. […] > This isn’t incoherent. It reflects a clear principle: Only the president and his allies, his supporters, and their anointed are entitled to the rights and protections of the law, and if necessary, immunity from it. The rest of us are entitled only to cruelty, by their whim. This is how the powerful have ever kept the powerless divided and in their place, and enriched themselves in the process. * http://archive.is/https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/the-cruelty-is-the-point/572104/ http://archive.is/https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/... * https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/665171/the-cruelty-is-the-point-by-adam-serwer/ https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/665171/the-cruelty-...
- autobodie 2y ago
  Right. Sounds like a lot of needless speculation to me.

How is it overlooked that these people are simply both unhappy and helpless, as a result of the society they live in? The problem is they do not live in a democracy.

goda90 2y ago

From TFA: > These individuals are not idealists seeking to tear down the established order so that they can build a better society for everyone. Rather, they indiscriminately share hostile political rumors as a way to unleash chaos and mobilize individuals against the established order that fails to accord them the respect that they feel they personally deserve.

throw0101d 2y ago
Some of these individuals also want to cause pain to others, and feel it is unjust if the pain comes to them: > A federal prison here in Florida’s rural Panhandle lost much of its roof and fence during Hurricane Michael in October, forcing hundreds of inmates to relocate to a facility in Yazoo City, Miss., more than 400 miles away. > Since then, corrections officers have had to commute there to work, a seven-hour drive, for two-week stints. As of this week, thanks to the partial federal government shutdown, they will be doing it without pay — no paychecks and no reimbursement for gas, meals and laundry, expenses that can run hundreds of dollars per trip. […] > The shutdown on top of the hurricane has caused Ms. Minton to rethink a lot of things. > “I voted for him, and he’s the one who’s doing this,” she said of Mr. Trump. “I thought he was going to do good things. He’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting.” * https://archive.is/https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/07/us/florida-government-shutdown-marianna.html https://archive.is/https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/07/us/flo... “He’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting.” As Adam Serwer observed, the cruelty is the point: > We can hear the spectacle of cruel laughter throughout the Trump era. There were the border patrol agents cracking up at the crying immigrant children separated[1] from their families, and the Trump adviser who delighted white supremacists[2] when he mocked a child with down syndrome[3] who was separated from her mother. There were the police who laughed uproariously when the president encouraged them to abuse[4] suspects, and the Fox News hosts mocking a survivor of the Pulse Nightclub massacre[5] (and in the process inundating him with threats), the survivors of sexual assault protesting Senator Jeff Flake,[6] the women who said the president sexually assaulted them,[7] and the teen survivors of the Parkland school shooting.[8] There was the president mocking Puerto Rican accents[9] shortly after thousands were killed and tens of thousands displaced by Hurricane Maria, the black athletes protesting unjustified killings by police, the women of the #MeToo movement[10] who have come forward with stories of sexual abuse, and the disabled reporter whose crime was reporting on Trump truthfully. It is not just that they enjoy this cruelty, it is that they enjoy it with each other. Their shared laughter at the suffering of others is an adhesive that binds them to each other, and to Trump. […] > This isn’t incoherent. It reflects a clear principle: Only the president and his allies, his supporters, and their anointed are entitled to the rights and protections of the law, and if necessary, immunity from it. The rest of us are entitled only to cruelty, by their whim. This is how the powerful have ever kept the powerless divided and in their place, and enriched themselves in the process. * http://archive.is/https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/the-cruelty-is-the-point/572104/ http://archive.is/https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/... * https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/665171/the-cruelty-is-the-point-by-adam-serwer/ https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/665171/the-cruelty-...
autobodie 2y ago
Right. Sounds like a lot of needless speculation to me.