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Extend Extra Extreme: keyboard extend layer mappings

17 points by lnyan 2y ago

kohlerm 2y ago
I am using a slightly modified Extend layout since a couple of years, and it was really a game changer for me.
speps 2y ago
I’m hoping the title is a reference to this excellent game from Xbox Live Arcade days: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Every_Extend_Extra_Extreme https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Every_Extend_Extra_Extreme
mathfailure 2y ago
Do I get it right that they have 0 (zero, nada) visualization of what the keys of the current layout would do? If so - then it sounds even worse than learning vim arcane spells / motions and bindings. Or are there any h/w alternatives to Optimus Maximus [0]? [0] - https://www.artlebedev.com/optimus/maximus/ https://www.artlebedev.com/optimus/maximus/
- Bjartr 2y ago
  The Flux Keyboard should begin shipping this year. https://fluxkeyboard.com/ https://fluxkeyboard.com/
  - imcritic 2y ago
    A numpadless atrocity.
- exceptione 2y ago
  It is out of stock, but even then I would have zero interest in supporting someone (trigger warning) blatantly fascist: https://holodomormuseum.org.ua/en/propaganda/artemy-lebedev-founder-of-the-internet-advertising-agency/ https://holodomormuseum.org.ua/en/propaganda/artemy-lebedev-...
  - imcritic 2y ago
    That site is propaganda. Ukrainian forces have fascist battalions (azov), but you probably support them.
- nemomarx 2y ago
  you could set up rgb lighting to highlight the sections pretty easily on any decent keyboard I think.
- benjijay 2y ago
  That's a throwback! I remember being excited about the Optimus Maximus back around '06! Never heard of any actually making it out into the wild...
- jon-wood 2y ago
  I use a similar keyboard layout, it took me a couple of weeks to get back to being able to competently type when I first started using it and now I wouldn't go back. It's not really any different to getting used to the fact that when you hold shift the 1 key inserts and exclamation mark instead, you probably don't consciously hold the shift key and then look around your keyboard trying to work out which key you need to hit.
- maleldil 2y ago
  With keyboards from ZSA[1], you can use their Oryx and Keymapp[2] software to get a live preview of what the keyboard is doing. [1] https://www.zsa.io https://www.zsa.io [2] https://blog.zsa.io/keymapp/ https://blog.zsa.io/keymapp/
widforss 2y ago
I started using Svorak A5 (https://svorak.ahall.se/ https://svorak.ahall.se/) the summer before I started college in 2016 (with the standard bindings on the numerical keys as well, so it's redundant). Since I have started using more alphabets I have modified the layout quite a lot over the years. I now have Norwegian, Icelandic and Sami characters as well. I currently bind up to four characters per key. It's really true that the extra layers doesn't disturb at all. Some characters I don't even know where they are, but most I use daily. There are also some that are placed strategically, so that I can find them when i need them (ŋ is Ctrl+Shift+AltGr+N, the ◌̌ dead key is Ctrl+Shift+AltGr+^ and ° is Ctrl+Shift+AltGr+0). I even created a left-handed version once (https://gist.github.com/widforss/f980baa66d4c99f94adc41b17bd33a2f https://gist.github.com/widforss/f980baa66d4c99f94adc41b17bd...), though I never bothered to learn that one.
tagfowufe 2y ago
Colemak is great, I recommend it. The Extend Layer is layout agnostic, and a total game changer. Give it a try, and enjoy enhanced, comfortable and fluid text editing and navigation at your fingertips.
BadCoder44 2y ago
If I did not switch to chording with plover, I would try this out. I prefer chording now, but colemak was my layout of choice when I still typed a lot. Layers are more confusing for me than chords, and I find chords + phonetics to be more flexible in most cases.

17 points by lnyan 2y ago

I am using a slightly modified Extend layout since a couple of years, and it was really a game changer for me.

I’m hoping the title is a reference to this excellent game from Xbox Live Arcade days: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Every_Extend_Extra_Extreme https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Every_Extend_Extra_Extreme

mathfailure 2y ago

Do I get it right that they have 0 (zero, nada) visualization of what the keys of the current layout would do? If so - then it sounds even worse than learning vim arcane spells / motions and bindings. Or are there any h/w alternatives to Optimus Maximus [0]? [0] - https://www.artlebedev.com/optimus/maximus/ https://www.artlebedev.com/optimus/maximus/

Bjartr 2y ago
The Flux Keyboard should begin shipping this year. https://fluxkeyboard.com/ https://fluxkeyboard.com/
- imcritic 2y ago
  A numpadless atrocity.
exceptione 2y ago
It is out of stock, but even then I would have zero interest in supporting someone (trigger warning) blatantly fascist: https://holodomormuseum.org.ua/en/propaganda/artemy-lebedev-founder-of-the-internet-advertising-agency/ https://holodomormuseum.org.ua/en/propaganda/artemy-lebedev-...
- imcritic 2y ago
  That site is propaganda. Ukrainian forces have fascist battalions (azov), but you probably support them.
nemomarx 2y ago
you could set up rgb lighting to highlight the sections pretty easily on any decent keyboard I think.
benjijay 2y ago
That's a throwback! I remember being excited about the Optimus Maximus back around '06! Never heard of any actually making it out into the wild...
jon-wood 2y ago
I use a similar keyboard layout, it took me a couple of weeks to get back to being able to competently type when I first started using it and now I wouldn't go back. It's not really any different to getting used to the fact that when you hold shift the 1 key inserts and exclamation mark instead, you probably don't consciously hold the shift key and then look around your keyboard trying to work out which key you need to hit.
maleldil 2y ago
With keyboards from ZSA[1], you can use their Oryx and Keymapp[2] software to get a live preview of what the keyboard is doing. [1] https://www.zsa.io https://www.zsa.io [2] https://blog.zsa.io/keymapp/ https://blog.zsa.io/keymapp/

widforss 2y ago

I started using Svorak A5 (https://svorak.ahall.se/ https://svorak.ahall.se/) the summer before I started college in 2016 (with the standard bindings on the numerical keys as well, so it's redundant). Since I have started using more alphabets I have modified the layout quite a lot over the years. I now have Norwegian, Icelandic and Sami characters as well. I currently bind up to four characters per key. It's really true that the extra layers doesn't disturb at all. Some characters I don't even know where they are, but most I use daily. There are also some that are placed strategically, so that I can find them when i need them (ŋ is Ctrl+Shift+AltGr+N, the ◌̌ dead key is Ctrl+Shift+AltGr+^ and ° is Ctrl+Shift+AltGr+0). I even created a left-handed version once (https://gist.github.com/widforss/f980baa66d4c99f94adc41b17bd33a2f https://gist.github.com/widforss/f980baa66d4c99f94adc41b17bd...), though I never bothered to learn that one.

tagfowufe 2y ago

Colemak is great, I recommend it. The Extend Layer is layout agnostic, and a total game changer. Give it a try, and enjoy enhanced, comfortable and fluid text editing and navigation at your fingertips.

BadCoder44 2y ago

If I did not switch to chording with plover, I would try this out. I prefer chording now, but colemak was my layout of choice when I still typed a lot. Layers are more confusing for me than chords, and I find chords + phonetics to be more flexible in most cases.