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I stopped wearing shirts except for semi-formal dinner occasions once or twice a year. I don't want fancy dress pants, I don't want pants with belts at all. I w

I stopped wearing shirts except for semi-formal dinner occasions once or twice a year. I don't want fancy dress pants, I don't want pants with belts at all. I want something soft, slightly elastic around the waist that I can lounge around in, that doesn't feel like it's restrictive of movement. I dress for comfort, but I do like variety and some colors, not just gym clothes. This is a horrible problem because the modern approach to clothes production is retarded. Formal isn't comfortable. Everyday fast fashion isn't comfortable and it's either pointlessly frilly over designed garbage that tries too hard to make a statement or it's generic in the extreme for faceless drones made only for utility values. The third category is a more interesting cut but unsatisfactory quality

iamthepieman 2y ago
Well made formal clothes are the most comfortable you'll wear. There is some mental discomfort for a while depending on your mindset because, at least for me, I was stuck thinking fancier clothes required fancier demeanor and attitude? Not sure I'm bailing the feeling here but it does go away eventually. I ultimately did drop the everyday formal wear though because well made stuff was expensive and Im pretty active and found myself with a lot of rips and stains on expensive clothing items.
the__alchemist 2y ago
There are some exceptions; IMO "dress" pants are more comfortable than jeans. Details vary within each category, of course.
- glitchc 2y ago
  Nothing's more comfortable than a pair of broken-in jeans that fit you perfectly.
  - enaaem 2y ago
    Modern dress pants are often too tight, but with well fitting dress pants it's like you are not wearing any pants at all. For example classic design features like pleats provide extra comfort when sitting down. I don't think I ever seen jeans with such features.
    - wlonkly 2y ago
      And the lining! Temperature permitting, of course, but having a satin lining to your soft wool pants? It's not far off from pajamas. Of course it's often with some other clothes that are a little unpajamalike, like a stiff collar and a jacket, but a pair of half-lined pants are extremely comfortable.
      - glitchc 2y ago
        Oh geez, satin lining on wool pants?!? My legs would start sweating in five minutes.
        wlonkly 2y ago
        Wool doesn't have to be warm! Tropical weights of wool are very light. But yes, lined pants are definitely warmer than without. Definitely less warm than a suit jacket, though.

iamthepieman 2y ago

Well made formal clothes are the most comfortable you'll wear. There is some mental discomfort for a while depending on your mindset because, at least for me, I was stuck thinking fancier clothes required fancier demeanor and attitude? Not sure I'm bailing the feeling here but it does go away eventually. I ultimately did drop the everyday formal wear though because well made stuff was expensive and Im pretty active and found myself with a lot of rips and stains on expensive clothing items.

the__alchemist 2y ago

There are some exceptions; IMO "dress" pants are more comfortable than jeans. Details vary within each category, of course.

glitchc 2y ago
Nothing's more comfortable than a pair of broken-in jeans that fit you perfectly.
- enaaem 2y ago
  Modern dress pants are often too tight, but with well fitting dress pants it's like you are not wearing any pants at all. For example classic design features like pleats provide extra comfort when sitting down. I don't think I ever seen jeans with such features.
  - wlonkly 2y ago
    And the lining! Temperature permitting, of course, but having a satin lining to your soft wool pants? It's not far off from pajamas. Of course it's often with some other clothes that are a little unpajamalike, like a stiff collar and a jacket, but a pair of half-lined pants are extremely comfortable.
    - glitchc 2y ago
      Oh geez, satin lining on wool pants?!? My legs would start sweating in five minutes.
      - wlonkly 2y ago
        Wool doesn't have to be warm! Tropical weights of wool are very light. But yes, lined pants are definitely warmer than without. Definitely less warm than a suit jacket, though.