3 ms·

Don't discount MediaTek, and four years is an exaggeration.

scarface_74 2y ago
My bad - only 3 years. The fastest Samsung is around iPhone 12 and iPhone 13. https://browser.geekbench.com/mobile-benchmarks https://browser.geekbench.com/mobile-benchmarks MediaTek is definitely not releasing high end chips. For desktop ARM, the only ones that come close are Qualcomm’s chip
- ninetyninenine 2y ago
  TMSC realizes the designs. They only aren't designing because they choose not to. Basically everything you see around you Asia does better. I think the last thing we have is military technology and passenger planes. As for software, we're only slightly better than asia.
  - scarface_74 2y ago
    If that were the case, why wouldn’t they do that? Does Foxconn also “realize the design” of the iPhone?
    - ninetyninenine 2y ago
      Because their business model is to focus on manufacturing so that they don’t compete with their customers. This gives them access to Nvidia and amd with no conflict of interest. This is not something I’m just speculating about and writing about here as a counter point. This is literally a well known and specific strategic business decision made by tsmc. Foxconn I’m less familiar with them so I can’t comment on that. But I wouldn’t be surprised if they had a similar strategy. Would apple really outsource to them if they were making their own competing phones? Fuck no. That being said you know that all phone technology comes from abroad right? Like most design and manufacturing come from Asia. It is impossible for America alone to support the full stack of this technology. But Asia can.
      - scarface_74 2y ago
        Foxconn is actually an ODM too. They design and manufacturer their own phones. https://nuumobile.com/android-oems-vs-odms-5-things-you-should-know/#:~:text=ODM%2520stands%2520for%2520%E2%80%9Coriginal%2520design,as%2520%E2%80%9Cwhite%252Dlabelling%E2%80%9D. https://nuumobile.com/android-oems-vs-odms-5-things-you-shou...
        ninetyninenine 2y ago
        Doubt those phones compete with apple.

My bad - only 3 years. The fastest Samsung is around iPhone 12 and iPhone 13. https://browser.geekbench.com/mobile-benchmarks https://browser.geekbench.com/mobile-benchmarks MediaTek is definitely not releasing high end chips. For desktop ARM, the only ones that come close are Qualcomm’s chip

ninetyninenine 2y ago
TMSC realizes the designs. They only aren't designing because they choose not to. Basically everything you see around you Asia does better. I think the last thing we have is military technology and passenger planes. As for software, we're only slightly better than asia.
- scarface_74 2y ago
  If that were the case, why wouldn’t they do that? Does Foxconn also “realize the design” of the iPhone?
  - ninetyninenine 2y ago
    Because their business model is to focus on manufacturing so that they don’t compete with their customers. This gives them access to Nvidia and amd with no conflict of interest. This is not something I’m just speculating about and writing about here as a counter point. This is literally a well known and specific strategic business decision made by tsmc. Foxconn I’m less familiar with them so I can’t comment on that. But I wouldn’t be surprised if they had a similar strategy. Would apple really outsource to them if they were making their own competing phones? Fuck no. That being said you know that all phone technology comes from abroad right? Like most design and manufacturing come from Asia. It is impossible for America alone to support the full stack of this technology. But Asia can.
    - scarface_74 2y ago
      Foxconn is actually an ODM too. They design and manufacturer their own phones. https://nuumobile.com/android-oems-vs-odms-5-things-you-should-know/#:~:text=ODM%2520stands%2520for%2520%E2%80%9Coriginal%2520design,as%2520%E2%80%9Cwhite%252Dlabelling%E2%80%9D. https://nuumobile.com/android-oems-vs-odms-5-things-you-shou...
      - ninetyninenine 2y ago
        Doubt those phones compete with apple.