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No it’s not. Software is killing the US and not because it abstracts low level stuff. It’s because it abstracts reality in such a way that the US is becoming a
by ninetyninenine 2y ago
No it’s not. Software is killing the US and not because it abstracts low level stuff. It’s because it abstracts reality in such a way that the US is becoming a nation of software engineers ignorant of even how to build the stuff it programs. We’ve moved up the stack and moving up the stack requires people knowledgeable about the bottom.
One can’t exist without the other so the world isn’t getting destroyed. China is handling the bottom of the stack. And by understanding the bottom of the stack they also become good with the top.
I used to hear shit like China only knows how to manufacture stuff the US is good at design. And I keep thinking well if you submit an entire design to China to manufacture you don’t think they will figure out how to design? Knowing how to design is easy. Manufacturing or turning that design into reality is hard.
Software isn’t killing civilization. It’s killing the US and that may seem like the world if you lived here all your life.
- scarface_74 2y agoYou realize that the US is still designing the most advanced processors and technology. Now if you argued that the US has forgotten how to manufacture anything, I would agree with you.
- ninetyninenine 2y agoNo. Taiwan and Korea are on par for design.
- scarface_74 2y agoTaiwan doesn’t “design” any leading edge chip they manufacture them. Where are the great chios from Korea? The top Android phones are four years behind iPhones as far as performance - including those from Samsung
- sampullman 2y agoDon't discount MediaTek, and four years is an exaggeration.
- scarface_74 2y agoMy bad - only 3 years. The fastest Samsung is around iPhone 12 and iPhone 13. https://browser.geekbench.com/mobile-benchmarks https://browser.geekbench.com/mobile-benchmarks MediaTek is definitely not releasing high end chips. For desktop ARM, the only ones that come close are Qualcomm’s chip
- ninetyninenine 2y agoTMSC realizes the designs. They only aren't designing because they choose not to. Basically everything you see around you Asia does better. I think the last thing we have is military technology and passenger planes. As for software, we're only slightly better than asia.
- scarface_74 2y agoIf that were the case, why wouldn’t they do that? Does Foxconn also “realize the design” of the iPhone?
- ninetyninenine 2y agoBecause their business model is to focus on manufacturing so that they don’t compete with their customers. This gives them access to Nvidia and amd with no conflict of interest. This is not something I’m just speculating about and writing about here as a counter point. This is literally a well known and specific strategic business decision made by tsmc. Foxconn I’m less familiar with them so I can’t comment on that. But I wouldn’t be surprised if they had a similar strategy. Would apple really outsource to them if they were making their own competing phones? Fuck no. That being said you know that all phone technology comes from abroad right? Like most design and manufacturing come from Asia. It is impossible for America alone to support the full stack of this technology. But Asia can.
- scarface_74 2y agoFoxconn is actually an ODM too. They design and manufacturer their own phones. https://nuumobile.com/android-oems-vs-odms-5-things-you-should-know/#:~:text=ODM%2520stands%2520for%2520%E2%80%9Coriginal%2520design,as%2520%E2%80%9Cwhite%252Dlabelling%E2%80%9D. https://nuumobile.com/android-oems-vs-odms-5-things-you-shou...