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"Really" as a surprise or you are confronting the veracity of my statement? No, NetBSD is not working on Qualcomm based laptops. I also know quite a few arm64

by betaby 2y ago

"Really" as a surprise or you are confronting the veracity of my statement? No, NetBSD is not working on Qualcomm based laptops. I also know quite a few arm64 distributions ... like LineageOS, which works OK-ish on my phone. This thread however is about laptops in a sense one expects from the laptop, i.e. hardware accelerated video, WiFi 5 and above, bluetooth, woking sleep/resume. I don't understand what exactly is strange here for you.

kristopolous 2y ago
They must not care about Linux as much as I think. I thought it's kinda standard these days to release laptops that plausibly work with at least Ubuntu, in some limited way. I must live in a bubble.
- betaby 2y ago
  I would say Linux support even for modern x86 laptops is not great. Take for example Zenbook S series, both AMD and Intel. While most of the things are kind of working, they are not that stable. I would say Linux support peaked somewhere on 12th generation Intel laptops.
  - kristopolous 2y ago
    For me, ACPI is the one thing that never seems to work quite right. Maybe I'm just doing it wrong
  - brucehoult 2y ago
    I don't have any problems with Ubuntu 24.04 on my i9-13900HX Lenovo Legion Pro 5i. It's never crashed, I never reboot it, sleep works fine. It spends almost all its time sitting with the lid closed, sshing in from my Mac, using 13W-15W depending on whether it's in eco/smart/performance mode, then boosting to 160W or so if I ask it to do something serious. When I do take it mobile, it runs for about 5 hours doing light stuff in eco mode, vs 6 hours when it has Windows on it. The difference isn't really a problem as it disappears if you give it some real work to do. That's not Arm Mac battery life, but it's 2 or 3 hours more than I ever actually need. I've got it set up to keep running closed on AC, sleep if the AC disappears. Works great, and it's going instantly from sleep with a keypress if I open it. Really, no complaints at all.

by betaby 2y ago

kristopolous 2y ago

They must not care about Linux as much as I think. I thought it's kinda standard these days to release laptops that plausibly work with at least Ubuntu, in some limited way. I must live in a bubble.

betaby 2y ago
I would say Linux support even for modern x86 laptops is not great. Take for example Zenbook S series, both AMD and Intel. While most of the things are kind of working, they are not that stable. I would say Linux support peaked somewhere on 12th generation Intel laptops.
- kristopolous 2y ago
  For me, ACPI is the one thing that never seems to work quite right. Maybe I'm just doing it wrong
- brucehoult 2y ago
  I don't have any problems with Ubuntu 24.04 on my i9-13900HX Lenovo Legion Pro 5i. It's never crashed, I never reboot it, sleep works fine. It spends almost all its time sitting with the lid closed, sshing in from my Mac, using 13W-15W depending on whether it's in eco/smart/performance mode, then boosting to 160W or so if I ask it to do something serious. When I do take it mobile, it runs for about 5 hours doing light stuff in eco mode, vs 6 hours when it has Windows on it. The difference isn't really a problem as it disappears if you give it some real work to do. That's not Arm Mac battery life, but it's 2 or 3 hours more than I ever actually need. I've got it set up to keep running closed on AC, sleep if the AC disappears. Works great, and it's going instantly from sleep with a keypress if I open it. Really, no complaints at all.