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I don't really understand how you're misconstrueing what I'm saying. I didn't say there's brigading. I didn't say dang is biased or "on a throne of lies". I sai
by Tadpole9181 2y ago
I don't really understand how you're misconstrueing what I'm saying. I didn't say there's brigading. I didn't say dang is biased or "on a throne of lies". I said he's clearly explained how the system works and it's operating as intended, but that the intended system has flaws. And that the topic invokes bad faith flagging, which leverages those flaws.
I admit I was shitty to them a week or two ago calling them "complicit" for the effect of the flaws, but that was just me being shitty and I have not said that HN mods are doing something wrong here. I just defended them all repeatedly? Let me be excruciatingly clear: Dang and the team have done a great job all things considered, despite what disappointments I outlined above. It's hard, unappreciated work, and their communication has been helpful.
WRT to the attempted parallel: some submissions are flagged for good reason. Hell, this post should be flagged because it's a duplicate. But I'm not fool enough to not understand the context of these discussions. And, once again, the context is that a saluting, meming gamer Nazi billionaire is achieving the libertarian dream dismantling the US government using the fascist dream of zero oversight executive overreach using AI wielding, racist tech bros fresh out of college.
Seriously, I couldn't think of a better targeted demographic to abuse the flagging system to suppress any negative coverage of this being bad in our community.
If your goal here is to convince me that this whole situation has NOT been exacerbated by those abusing their flag privilege, you should honestly just move on. Not even dang has insight into the mens rea of a flag and I've had the displeasure of many of my peers being this particular brand of nasty.
- pvg 2y agodang has insight into the mens rea Neither do you though? It's just not at all obvious to me, other than 'I think it's nazis because nazis are bad' (and nazis are, without question, really bad - no argument there), why one ought to assume that this is nazis, but every other time it happens (nearly daily) it's something else. you should honestly just move on done.
- Tadpole9181 2y agoThe fact you reduce everything I say to absurdity or some complete falsehood is against HN rules too, if we're being pedantic. Maybe you could stop? I don't think it's authoritarians "because Nazis are bad". I think it's authoritarians because it's a story about authoritarians having authoritarians do bad authoritarian things and there are a disproportionate ratio of authoritarians or authoritarian sympathizers on this forum (and our careers) and this action is blatantly inline with the behavior of the petty authoritarians who are trying to seize power and I'm not an idiot? And, no, this isn't exclusive to this scenario. And, shockingly, there are more than two scenarios on this planet. You're not being clever, you're being dismissive and rude.
- _DeadFred_ 2y agoI think the takeaway is we have our answer, this isn't the site for the kind of open bay area adjacent discussion you/others assumed it was. It has been clearly pointed out it has always been a very curated discussion, we just didn't notice/understand. This is how flagging works here (you/me wrongly assumed flagging was required to meet your/our definition of good faith).