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> Peopple have figured out how to do this. 'This' being 'taking firearms away from people willing to obey the laws in the first place'. What's the problem wit

by derleth 14y ago

> Peopple have figured out how to do this. 'This' being 'taking firearms away from people willing to obey the laws in the first place'. What's the problem with using that logic to take firearms away from criminals?

mc32 14y ago
Because by definition, criminals do not obey the law. If arms were taken out of circulation, there would be none to obtain except via smuggling --which is time consuming, requires connections, is costly, etc. It would certainly require advanced planning to carry out. The criminal could not just go down to Sears and buy one or down to the seedy area of town and then do a stick up later in the day.
- nsxwolf 14y ago
  Except that soon you'll be able to just print the guns out at home.
  - ktizo 14y ago
    And the drugs - http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/jul/21/chemputer-that-prints-out-drugs http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/jul/21/chemputer-that... And some spare organs in case of accidents involving the guns and the drugs - http://www.ted.com/talks/anthony_atala_growing_organs_engineering_tissue.html http://www.ted.com/talks/anthony_atala_growing_organs_engine... And nice little chocolate things - http://www.chocedge.com/ http://www.chocedge.com/ And a new home after you destroy your existing one with the guns after binging out on all the drugs and chocolate - http://www.contourcrafting.org/ http://www.contourcrafting.org/
    - nsxwolf 14y ago
      This is a very exciting future indeed. There hasn't been something like this since the home computing revolution. It's the 1970s again, and we're still at the Homebrew Computer Club stage.
      - ktizo 14y ago
        Tell me about it. I went and bought a reprap. I now have a 3d printer on my desk that's priced well under a grand, that is cheap as hell to run and that is designed from the outset for making replacement and upgraded components for itself. - http://www.reprap.org http://www.reprap.org Why more people haven't bought one already is more of a mystery to me.
  - mc32 14y ago
    People could --but to what degree of success? A gunsmith, yes, but any yobbo at home? They might fire once, they might explode.
    - nsxwolf 14y ago
      That's why I'm putting it more like 20 years out. Eventually there will be printing technology that will provide the tolerances required for a complete gun that doesn't blow up in your face.

by derleth 14y ago

mc32 14y ago

Because by definition, criminals do not obey the law. If arms were taken out of circulation, there would be none to obtain except via smuggling --which is time consuming, requires connections, is costly, etc. It would certainly require advanced planning to carry out. The criminal could not just go down to Sears and buy one or down to the seedy area of town and then do a stick up later in the day.

nsxwolf 14y ago
Except that soon you'll be able to just print the guns out at home.
- ktizo 14y ago
  And the drugs - http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/jul/21/chemputer-that-prints-out-drugs http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/jul/21/chemputer-that... And some spare organs in case of accidents involving the guns and the drugs - http://www.ted.com/talks/anthony_atala_growing_organs_engineering_tissue.html http://www.ted.com/talks/anthony_atala_growing_organs_engine... And nice little chocolate things - http://www.chocedge.com/ http://www.chocedge.com/ And a new home after you destroy your existing one with the guns after binging out on all the drugs and chocolate - http://www.contourcrafting.org/ http://www.contourcrafting.org/
  - nsxwolf 14y ago
    This is a very exciting future indeed. There hasn't been something like this since the home computing revolution. It's the 1970s again, and we're still at the Homebrew Computer Club stage.
    - ktizo 14y ago
      Tell me about it. I went and bought a reprap. I now have a 3d printer on my desk that's priced well under a grand, that is cheap as hell to run and that is designed from the outset for making replacement and upgraded components for itself. - http://www.reprap.org http://www.reprap.org Why more people haven't bought one already is more of a mystery to me.
- mc32 14y ago
  People could --but to what degree of success? A gunsmith, yes, but any yobbo at home? They might fire once, they might explode.
  - nsxwolf 14y ago
    That's why I'm putting it more like 20 years out. Eventually there will be printing technology that will provide the tolerances required for a complete gun that doesn't blow up in your face.