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We've only seen what the media has reported and from people that are getting fired (and hate Trump and Musk). We don't know what's actually going on from the i

We've only seen what the media has reported and from people that are getting fired (and hate Trump and Musk). We don't know what's actually going on from the inside. In my city, I've been seeing people posting on Facebook since Trump came into office that ICE was pulling kids out of school, according to teachers working there and other employees that witnessed it'. When someone actually investigated this, it never happened. ICE was never even near the school. I've been in cybersecurity for a couple of decades and I remember when they were investigating the networks attached to the voting machines. There were glaring security issues (old/outdated software being used and the ability to get updates over the Internet (when it wasn't supposed to be connected at all). Many from the security community came out and denied that there was even an issue at all. While there was no proof that the voting machines were hacked, these obvious security issues shouldn't be ignored. I don't think anything has changed. When Trump won in 2016, the security community talked about all of the insecurities in the dominion voting machines (with Proof-of-concept attack chains). All of these articles disappeared after Biden won in 2020 and the community stopped talking about any issues with the voting machines. I expect to see more articles about it, now that Trump is back in the Whitehouse. It's really hard for me to take anything seriously from the security community when it comes to things like this because many are so politically motivated, they are willing to ignore obvious evidence when it hurts the people they like and exaggerate (and outright lie) about security issues when it comes to people they hate.

talldayo 2y ago
The recent article from KrebsOnSecurity (a very well-respected, neutral party) identifies one of the DOGE workers as an online thug facilitating cybercrime, fraud and slander: https://krebsonsecurity.com/2025/02/teen-on-musks-doge-team-graduated-from-the-com/ https://krebsonsecurity.com/2025/02/teen-on-musks-doge-team-... I don't consider myself vehemently against Elon Musk, but these are surface-level things that background checks would filter out if Elon hadn't overridden them. This isn't even partisan so much as it is about protecting data. If Elon's flagrant illegal disregard of the GPL license at Tesla is any past indication, his respect for the law is less than coherent.
- billy99k 2y ago
  He's not a 'neutral' party: https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-fires-christopher-krebs-dhs-5e63923e0c11c9155eb5af2362d78548 https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-fires-christopher-kr... Krebs also claimed there were no issues with the voting systems or networks, when there were glaring issues that were completely ignored, because nobody wanted to help Trump in his fight after the election. I really lost trust in his ability to give us the truth about actual security issues at this time, because of this. "identifies one of the DOGE workers as an online thug facilitating cybercrime, fraud and slander" Is he a criminal now or was this in the past? Are people not allowed to be reformed? This article mentions even hosting Russian websites as a reason not to hire him. and working for a company that was started by a cybercriminal. Since guilt by association is a thing now, should we not hire anyone that speaks Russian? How about if they speak Arabic? All of the things Democrats claim to be against: bias, racism, bigotry all come back when it involves someone you hate. This phony behavior will not help you win elections in the future.
  - talldayo 2y ago
    > I really lost trust in his ability to give us the truth about actual security issues at this time, because of this. That's a shame. The article is really well written and has been received excellently by HN. Maybe he's popular because he doesn't waste his time blogging about conspiracy theories? > Are people not allowed to be reformed? Wow, now you're getting really defensive of a criminal. Surprising! Yes, you can reform if you accept your punishment for your crime, plead guilty and apologize. Otherwise you're still a criminal. > Since guilt by association is a thing now, should we not hire anyone that speaks Russian? Well yeah, half the planet is sanctioning them at the moment. Hiring Russian citizens or accessories of the Russian state would be stupid, dangerous and illegal. Equally as head-up-ass as hiring Chinese nationals to audit state secrets. > All of the things Democrats claim to be against: bias, racism, bigotry all come back when it involves someone you hate. I'm not actually a Democrat. I'm a Republican that was pushed out of my party for supporting common sense regulation. Now that we've failed to regulate our businesses, they've started paying Donald Trump for illegal favors and anticompetitive advantages. America is fucking itself in the ass and people like you are spreading the cheeks open. > This phony behavior will not help you win elections in the future. People said that in 2016, right before Democrats put a corpse in the primary who's only platform was "I'm not Trump" (and won).

talldayo 2y ago

The recent article from KrebsOnSecurity (a very well-respected, neutral party) identifies one of the DOGE workers as an online thug facilitating cybercrime, fraud and slander: https://krebsonsecurity.com/2025/02/teen-on-musks-doge-team-graduated-from-the-com/ https://krebsonsecurity.com/2025/02/teen-on-musks-doge-team-... I don't consider myself vehemently against Elon Musk, but these are surface-level things that background checks would filter out if Elon hadn't overridden them. This isn't even partisan so much as it is about protecting data. If Elon's flagrant illegal disregard of the GPL license at Tesla is any past indication, his respect for the law is less than coherent.

billy99k 2y ago
He's not a 'neutral' party: https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-fires-christopher-krebs-dhs-5e63923e0c11c9155eb5af2362d78548 https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-fires-christopher-kr... Krebs also claimed there were no issues with the voting systems or networks, when there were glaring issues that were completely ignored, because nobody wanted to help Trump in his fight after the election. I really lost trust in his ability to give us the truth about actual security issues at this time, because of this. "identifies one of the DOGE workers as an online thug facilitating cybercrime, fraud and slander" Is he a criminal now or was this in the past? Are people not allowed to be reformed? This article mentions even hosting Russian websites as a reason not to hire him. and working for a company that was started by a cybercriminal. Since guilt by association is a thing now, should we not hire anyone that speaks Russian? How about if they speak Arabic? All of the things Democrats claim to be against: bias, racism, bigotry all come back when it involves someone you hate. This phony behavior will not help you win elections in the future.
- talldayo 2y ago
  > I really lost trust in his ability to give us the truth about actual security issues at this time, because of this. That's a shame. The article is really well written and has been received excellently by HN. Maybe he's popular because he doesn't waste his time blogging about conspiracy theories? > Are people not allowed to be reformed? Wow, now you're getting really defensive of a criminal. Surprising! Yes, you can reform if you accept your punishment for your crime, plead guilty and apologize. Otherwise you're still a criminal. > Since guilt by association is a thing now, should we not hire anyone that speaks Russian? Well yeah, half the planet is sanctioning them at the moment. Hiring Russian citizens or accessories of the Russian state would be stupid, dangerous and illegal. Equally as head-up-ass as hiring Chinese nationals to audit state secrets. > All of the things Democrats claim to be against: bias, racism, bigotry all come back when it involves someone you hate. I'm not actually a Democrat. I'm a Republican that was pushed out of my party for supporting common sense regulation. Now that we've failed to regulate our businesses, they've started paying Donald Trump for illegal favors and anticompetitive advantages. America is fucking itself in the ass and people like you are spreading the cheeks open. > This phony behavior will not help you win elections in the future. People said that in 2016, right before Democrats put a corpse in the primary who's only platform was "I'm not Trump" (and won).