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Doge is simply getting read access to see where our money is actually going. The far left hates this as their fraud and corruption will be exposed.

apical_dendrite 2y ago
No they've been lying about this: https://www.wired.com/story/treasury-department-doge-marko-elez-access/ https://www.wired.com/story/treasury-department-doge-marko-e... Also just having read access is still a problem when the read access is for PII and other sensitive information. You want a 19 year old kid who got fired from an internship for leaking sensitive information to have read access to all your employee data? (Pay, retirement, worker's comp, performance, banking information, and everything else). How about your social security records? Medical records from the VA? The list goes on.
- billy99k 2y ago
  "Also just having read access is still a problem when the read access is for PII and other sensitive information. You want a 19 year old kid who got fired from an internship for leaking sensitive information to have read access to all your employee data? (Pay, retirement, worker's comp, performance, banking information, and everything else). How about your social security records? Medical records from the VA? The list goes on." "but sources tell WIRED" Sources told me they never had access. Who do you believe now? Do you know for sure there are no checks and balances in the system besides what you read in a Wired article?
  - apical_dendrite 2y ago
    Well I would tend to believe the news organization that I know has reported accurate things in the past, and which I know has a reputable editorial process, and is accountable for what it publishes, rather than bill99k from hacker news who can just make up whatever shit he wants with no accountability. But that's just me.
    - billy99k 2y ago
      "Well I would tend to believe the news organization that I know has reported accurate things in the past," Anonymous sources are now all accurate?
billy99k 2y ago
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- apical_dendrite 2y ago
  > essentially funding state-run media without our consent. This is a dumb conspiracy theory. Politico has an expensive database product for tracking legislation. Government agencies subscribe to it the same way investment banks subscribe to a Bloomberg terminal - it helps them do their job. Also - it's literally the job of government to understand and respond to what is happening in the world and what the public is saying. Of course they are going to buy a fucking newspaper subscription to do that job. I'm sure every single Republican congressman is paying for some media subscriptions. You're falling for totally disingenuous propaganda.
  - arcmechanica 2y ago
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    - billy99k 2y ago
      "Don't engage with the trolls, I'm surprised this one is marginally literate, probably a bot" Funny, I felt the same way about the majority of the people frothing at the mouth and posting nonsense about Musk and Trump. Intelligence and critical thinking goes completely out the window.
  - billy99k 2y ago
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apical_dendrite 2y ago
If this was true, then how come all the tweets that Elon puts out with data about supposedly fraudulent and corrupt spending are screenshots of open source systems that anyone outside of government can access?
archagon 2y ago
American communists hate this? Are you sure? I'd ask them myself, but I can't say I've ever met any.
lawn 2y ago
Fraud and corruption? How about letting the richest man in the world be responsible of judging his own conflicts of interests, while giving him all the power to cut funding to the rivals of his many companies? Or to cut funding from departments that investigate his companies? People who defend Trump and Musk wouldn't recognize fraud and corruption if it hit them in the head.

apical_dendrite 2y ago

No they've been lying about this: https://www.wired.com/story/treasury-department-doge-marko-elez-access/ https://www.wired.com/story/treasury-department-doge-marko-e... Also just having read access is still a problem when the read access is for PII and other sensitive information. You want a 19 year old kid who got fired from an internship for leaking sensitive information to have read access to all your employee data? (Pay, retirement, worker's comp, performance, banking information, and everything else). How about your social security records? Medical records from the VA? The list goes on.

billy99k 2y ago
"Also just having read access is still a problem when the read access is for PII and other sensitive information. You want a 19 year old kid who got fired from an internship for leaking sensitive information to have read access to all your employee data? (Pay, retirement, worker's comp, performance, banking information, and everything else). How about your social security records? Medical records from the VA? The list goes on." "but sources tell WIRED" Sources told me they never had access. Who do you believe now? Do you know for sure there are no checks and balances in the system besides what you read in a Wired article?
- apical_dendrite 2y ago
  Well I would tend to believe the news organization that I know has reported accurate things in the past, and which I know has a reputable editorial process, and is accountable for what it publishes, rather than bill99k from hacker news who can just make up whatever shit he wants with no accountability. But that's just me.
  - billy99k 2y ago
    "Well I would tend to believe the news organization that I know has reported accurate things in the past," Anonymous sources are now all accurate?

billy99k 2y ago

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apical_dendrite 2y ago
> essentially funding state-run media without our consent. This is a dumb conspiracy theory. Politico has an expensive database product for tracking legislation. Government agencies subscribe to it the same way investment banks subscribe to a Bloomberg terminal - it helps them do their job. Also - it's literally the job of government to understand and respond to what is happening in the world and what the public is saying. Of course they are going to buy a fucking newspaper subscription to do that job. I'm sure every single Republican congressman is paying for some media subscriptions. You're falling for totally disingenuous propaganda.
- arcmechanica 2y ago
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  - billy99k 2y ago
    "Don't engage with the trolls, I'm surprised this one is marginally literate, probably a bot" Funny, I felt the same way about the majority of the people frothing at the mouth and posting nonsense about Musk and Trump. Intelligence and critical thinking goes completely out the window.
- billy99k 2y ago
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apical_dendrite 2y ago

If this was true, then how come all the tweets that Elon puts out with data about supposedly fraudulent and corrupt spending are screenshots of open source systems that anyone outside of government can access?

archagon 2y ago

American communists hate this? Are you sure? I'd ask them myself, but I can't say I've ever met any.

lawn 2y ago

Fraud and corruption? How about letting the richest man in the world be responsible of judging his own conflicts of interests, while giving him all the power to cut funding to the rivals of his many companies? Or to cut funding from departments that investigate his companies? People who defend Trump and Musk wouldn't recognize fraud and corruption if it hit them in the head.