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There is no fraud that can be proven! NIH Official account is saying last year $9B of the $35B in grant money was for "administrative overhead". Not fraud. But

There is no fraud that can be proven! NIH Official account is saying last year $9B of the $35B in grant money was for "administrative overhead". Not fraud. But does that sound reasonable to you?? https://x.com/NIH/status/1888004759396958263 https://x.com/NIH/status/1888004759396958263

einrealist 2y ago
Fraud can be proven. But its a process and its not as easy than just claiming something to be fraud. We (hopefully still) have a justice system, with due process for the same reason. That $9B is just a number. Whether it is reasonable or not can only be determined by looking into the details: - What accounts as overhead? - What were decisions that lead to that overhead? - Were there alternatives that would have costs less? - Why and how were those decisions made? - Can we learn for future decisions? - Was there actual fraud? - When there was fraud, why wasn't it referred to DOJ to be investigated properly? "Administrative overhead" is not bad by itself. Outside government, its simply called "Operating Expense" and "Cost of Revenue" (not a concern of government luckily). I am certain, if you look into SpaceX' or Tesla's expenses, you would find fraud too. Because Musk and his brainwashed followers can claim stuff on Twitter doesn't make it true. And it certainly MUST NOT be basis to destroy Democracy and democratic processes.
- justanotheratom 2y ago
  and what basis are you claiming destruction of democracy on? And why don't you sit down to answer your own questions?
  - l0t0b0r0s 2y ago
    Because hes not arguing in good faith for the truth of the matter. Even if you posted that someone was getting all 9billion of that administrative budget as salary; the next argument would be " ah that employee is worth 9billion no fraud here". The standard of proof hes looking for is likely a direct admission of guilt and intent lol.

einrealist 2y ago

Fraud can be proven. But its a process and its not as easy than just claiming something to be fraud. We (hopefully still) have a justice system, with due process for the same reason. That $9B is just a number. Whether it is reasonable or not can only be determined by looking into the details: - What accounts as overhead? - What were decisions that lead to that overhead? - Were there alternatives that would have costs less? - Why and how were those decisions made? - Can we learn for future decisions? - Was there actual fraud? - When there was fraud, why wasn't it referred to DOJ to be investigated properly? "Administrative overhead" is not bad by itself. Outside government, its simply called "Operating Expense" and "Cost of Revenue" (not a concern of government luckily). I am certain, if you look into SpaceX' or Tesla's expenses, you would find fraud too. Because Musk and his brainwashed followers can claim stuff on Twitter doesn't make it true. And it certainly MUST NOT be basis to destroy Democracy and democratic processes.

justanotheratom 2y ago
and what basis are you claiming destruction of democracy on? And why don't you sit down to answer your own questions?
- l0t0b0r0s 2y ago
  Because hes not arguing in good faith for the truth of the matter. Even if you posted that someone was getting all 9billion of that administrative budget as salary; the next argument would be " ah that employee is worth 9billion no fraud here". The standard of proof hes looking for is likely a direct admission of guilt and intent lol.