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Hot take: stop being authoritarian with code styles, perchance? You are not so wise as to determine what is clean code for the entire world, and the ego require

Hot take: stop being authoritarian with code styles, perchance? You are not so wise as to determine what is clean code for the entire world, and the ego required to believe that you are is beyond astounding. And we're still having these discussions despite unconfigurably prescriptive formatters. This idea that such formatters end these discussions is just demonstrably false... you are literally taking part in one of these discussions.

from-nibly 2y ago
The point is, that the way it's formatted doesn't matter. It just matters that it's consistent. Consistency is better than being right.
- Defletter 2y ago
  As I've said, it's fine for people, projects, and organisations to require and enforce a particular style for their code, to demand consistency for their code. The problem comes when people with inflated egos believe they have the right to dictate how the entire world writes their code. I feel like I need to stress that this is the issue here. The fact that Dart's formatter FAQ tells developers who are unhappy with the output to change their code to satisfy the formatter (https://github.com/dart-lang/dart_style/wiki/FAQ#i-dont-like-the-output https://github.com/dart-lang/dart_style/wiki/FAQ#i-dont-like...), rather than allowing developers to tweak the formatter to satisfy their code, is such a huge tell about their mindset. And again, these global styles do not "end the discussion" as people in this thread have asserted. The "tall style" PR (https://github.com/dart-lang/dart_style/issues/1253 https://github.com/dart-lang/dart_style/issues/1253) refutes that. And that PR has since devolved into bickering and heated demands since its adoption into SDK 3.7.0, since it transforms people's code in ways they dislike and/or find less readable. Just let people, projects, and organisations enforce their own styles conventions. It's not hard and it shouldn't be controversial.

from-nibly 2y ago

The point is, that the way it's formatted doesn't matter. It just matters that it's consistent. Consistency is better than being right.

Defletter 2y ago
As I've said, it's fine for people, projects, and organisations to require and enforce a particular style for their code, to demand consistency for their code. The problem comes when people with inflated egos believe they have the right to dictate how the entire world writes their code. I feel like I need to stress that this is the issue here. The fact that Dart's formatter FAQ tells developers who are unhappy with the output to change their code to satisfy the formatter (https://github.com/dart-lang/dart_style/wiki/FAQ#i-dont-like-the-output https://github.com/dart-lang/dart_style/wiki/FAQ#i-dont-like...), rather than allowing developers to tweak the formatter to satisfy their code, is such a huge tell about their mindset. And again, these global styles do not "end the discussion" as people in this thread have asserted. The "tall style" PR (https://github.com/dart-lang/dart_style/issues/1253 https://github.com/dart-lang/dart_style/issues/1253) refutes that. And that PR has since devolved into bickering and heated demands since its adoption into SDK 3.7.0, since it transforms people's code in ways they dislike and/or find less readable. Just let people, projects, and organisations enforce their own styles conventions. It's not hard and it shouldn't be controversial.