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He has released many of his stories and novels under Creative Commons: https://www.freesfonline.net/authors/Cory_Doctorow.html https://www.freesfonline.net/aut

He has released many of his stories and novels under Creative Commons: https://www.freesfonline.net/authors/Cory_Doctorow.html https://www.freesfonline.net/authors/Cory_Doctorow.html

palata 2y ago
So... because he releases parts of his work under Creative Commons means that it is okay for him to have copyright over his books? I don't get the logic.
- lrvick 2y ago
  You can buy his work DRM-free, and much of it is public: https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/author/3826 https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/author/3826 https://archive.org/details/cory-doctorow-content https://archive.org/details/cory-doctorow-content I happily pay him for hardcovers though. I do not believe copyright makes any sense in the global post-internet world. It is a major hindrance to progress. The many countries that do not enforce copyright law will share everything that can be shared and are going to progress much faster than the US in the long run.
  - palata 2y ago
    You're entitled to your own opinion, but please make a difference between "free", "no-DRM" and "copyright". And tell me how Doctorow sees it when you buy one of his book and start selling copies of it under your name.
    - lrvick 2y ago
      Impersonation would be a dick move, and would ruin my reputation. Do not need laws to avoid such things. Obvious social repercussions are enough. Still impersonation sucks, and it happens. Thankfully we can solve this with cryptography without trying to beg the legal system of hundreds of countries to agree on enforcement tactics. I publish 100% of code I write as FOSS. I also sign my commits. If the code shows up later without attribution to me, I would prove it publicly to call out dishonest behavior. I would also never use legal action for this though. All information should be free. I only put FOSS licenses on code to ensure I do not get sued and so corporations bound by such silly rules have a difficult time using my work in private codebases without paying me for an alternate license. I would abolish all IP law if I could. Let all information be free without legal risk to authors or those that share it.
      - palata 2y ago
        > I publish 100% of code I write as FOSS. This is not public domain. > and so corporations bound by such silly rules have a difficult time using my work in private codebases without paying me for an alternate license. So... you benefit from copyright laws. > to ensure I do not get sued Why would you get sued by releasing your code as public domain?
        roguecoder 2y ago
        Liability laws often don't care if something is free.
        palata 2y ago
        Which is beside the point. The person I am answering to says that they don't believe in copyright laws, but still they use licenses like MIT. Why not using CC0 then?
        lrvick 2y ago
        "CC0 has not been approved by the Open Source Initiative and does not license or otherwise affect any patent rights you may have. You may want to consider using an approved OSI license that does so instead of CC0, such as GPL 3.0 or Apache 2.0." https://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/CC0_FAQ https://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/CC0_FAQ CC0 is great but it does not go far enough for software. Patent and trademark rights are complex and it caused CC0 to be withdrawn from OSI consideration. https://lists.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review_lists.opensource.org/2012-February/001565.html https://lists.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review_lists.... I do not know why it has to be so legally complicated to say TAKE MY WORK IT IS FREE FOR ALL. IMO ISC is the current best OSI approved option for ensuring technical work can be used as broadly as possible and is what I use for recent work. https://www.tldrlegal.com/license/isc-license https://www.tldrlegal.com/license/isc-license Show me something OSI compatible less restrictive than ISC and I will use that.
        2y ago

He has released many of his stories and novels under Creative Commons: https://www.freesfonline.net/authors/Cory_Doctorow.html https://www.freesfonline.net/authors/Cory_Doctorow.html

palata 2y ago

So... because he releases parts of his work under Creative Commons means that it is okay for him to have copyright over his books? I don't get the logic.

lrvick 2y ago
You can buy his work DRM-free, and much of it is public: https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/author/3826 https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/author/3826 https://archive.org/details/cory-doctorow-content https://archive.org/details/cory-doctorow-content I happily pay him for hardcovers though. I do not believe copyright makes any sense in the global post-internet world. It is a major hindrance to progress. The many countries that do not enforce copyright law will share everything that can be shared and are going to progress much faster than the US in the long run.
- palata 2y ago
  You're entitled to your own opinion, but please make a difference between "free", "no-DRM" and "copyright". And tell me how Doctorow sees it when you buy one of his book and start selling copies of it under your name.
  - lrvick 2y ago
    Impersonation would be a dick move, and would ruin my reputation. Do not need laws to avoid such things. Obvious social repercussions are enough. Still impersonation sucks, and it happens. Thankfully we can solve this with cryptography without trying to beg the legal system of hundreds of countries to agree on enforcement tactics. I publish 100% of code I write as FOSS. I also sign my commits. If the code shows up later without attribution to me, I would prove it publicly to call out dishonest behavior. I would also never use legal action for this though. All information should be free. I only put FOSS licenses on code to ensure I do not get sued and so corporations bound by such silly rules have a difficult time using my work in private codebases without paying me for an alternate license. I would abolish all IP law if I could. Let all information be free without legal risk to authors or those that share it.
    - palata 2y ago
      > I publish 100% of code I write as FOSS. This is not public domain. > and so corporations bound by such silly rules have a difficult time using my work in private codebases without paying me for an alternate license. So... you benefit from copyright laws. > to ensure I do not get sued Why would you get sued by releasing your code as public domain?
      - roguecoder 2y ago
        Liability laws often don't care if something is free.
        palata 2y ago
        Which is beside the point. The person I am answering to says that they don't believe in copyright laws, but still they use licenses like MIT. Why not using CC0 then?
        lrvick 2y ago
        "CC0 has not been approved by the Open Source Initiative and does not license or otherwise affect any patent rights you may have. You may want to consider using an approved OSI license that does so instead of CC0, such as GPL 3.0 or Apache 2.0." https://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/CC0_FAQ https://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/CC0_FAQ CC0 is great but it does not go far enough for software. Patent and trademark rights are complex and it caused CC0 to be withdrawn from OSI consideration. https://lists.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review_lists.opensource.org/2012-February/001565.html https://lists.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review_lists.... I do not know why it has to be so legally complicated to say TAKE MY WORK IT IS FREE FOR ALL. IMO ISC is the current best OSI approved option for ensuring technical work can be used as broadly as possible and is what I use for recent work. https://www.tldrlegal.com/license/isc-license https://www.tldrlegal.com/license/isc-license Show me something OSI compatible less restrictive than ISC and I will use that.
        2y ago