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Please don't take this as a criticism but do you have a source documenting what you're describing? I'd really like to read up on it.

throwaway290 2y ago
https://apnews.com/article/indonesia-cambodia-illegal-organ-trade-kidneys-aedc6044fd6a8653427b0779d393458b https://apnews.com/article/indonesia-cambodia-illegal-organ-... https://hir.harvard.edu/for-sale-the-pervasive-organ-trade-in-asia/amp/ https://hir.harvard.edu/for-sale-the-pervasive-organ-trade-i... https://amp.scmp.com/week-asia/health-environment/article/3228999/indonesia-crackdown-widens-cambodia-organ-trafficking-case-ensnares-law-enforcement-officials https://amp.scmp.com/week-asia/health-environment/article/32... I bet crime by Chinese against Chinese in other countries is not very reported because local gov won't waste resources on non locals and because CCP won't want it in the news to protect their image And a bonus for the dead comment saying "the idea China would allow it's own citizens be cut up for organs is racist as fuck" https://thediplomat.com/2024/08/first-known-survivor-of-chinas-forced-organ-harvesting-speaks-out/ https://thediplomat.com/2024/08/first-known-survivor-of-chin... https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/in-the-face-of-criticism-china-has-been-cleaning-up-its-organ-transplant-industry/2017/09/14/d689444e-e1a2-11e6-a419-eefe8eff0835_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/in-the-fac... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6854896 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6854896 https://www.news.com.au/world/asia/barbaric-torture-brainwashing-and-forced-organ-removals-inside-chinas-brutal-death-camps/news-story/d249c1daedbbf1aff02f1c92744e2d78 https://www.news.com.au/world/asia/barbaric-torture-brainwas... Welcome to the world
- aaron695 2y ago
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doctorpangloss 2y ago
I guess a better question is, when donation rates in Asia are so low, where are transplanted organs coming from? Somebody already linked to a variety of research on this topic, it is the consensus that organ procurement in China is exploitative, even if people don’t know the exact details. Should surgeons even perform transplants in Asia? Many interesting questions.
- zemvpferreira 2y ago
  I'm sorry but those links seem to talk about dozens, or hundreds, of paid or somewhat coerced donors. OP is talking about hundreds of thousands of people being perpetually harvested in captivity. I'm not say he's lying or exaggerating, but I would appreciate a much, much, much better source to support those claims.

throwaway290 2y ago

https://apnews.com/article/indonesia-cambodia-illegal-organ-trade-kidneys-aedc6044fd6a8653427b0779d393458b https://apnews.com/article/indonesia-cambodia-illegal-organ-... https://hir.harvard.edu/for-sale-the-pervasive-organ-trade-in-asia/amp/ https://hir.harvard.edu/for-sale-the-pervasive-organ-trade-i... https://amp.scmp.com/week-asia/health-environment/article/3228999/indonesia-crackdown-widens-cambodia-organ-trafficking-case-ensnares-law-enforcement-officials https://amp.scmp.com/week-asia/health-environment/article/32... I bet crime by Chinese against Chinese in other countries is not very reported because local gov won't waste resources on non locals and because CCP won't want it in the news to protect their image And a bonus for the dead comment saying "the idea China would allow it's own citizens be cut up for organs is racist as fuck" https://thediplomat.com/2024/08/first-known-survivor-of-chinas-forced-organ-harvesting-speaks-out/ https://thediplomat.com/2024/08/first-known-survivor-of-chin... https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/in-the-face-of-criticism-china-has-been-cleaning-up-its-organ-transplant-industry/2017/09/14/d689444e-e1a2-11e6-a419-eefe8eff0835_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/in-the-fac... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6854896 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6854896 https://www.news.com.au/world/asia/barbaric-torture-brainwashing-and-forced-organ-removals-inside-chinas-brutal-death-camps/news-story/d249c1daedbbf1aff02f1c92744e2d78 https://www.news.com.au/world/asia/barbaric-torture-brainwas... Welcome to the world

aaron695 2y ago
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doctorpangloss 2y ago

I guess a better question is, when donation rates in Asia are so low, where are transplanted organs coming from? Somebody already linked to a variety of research on this topic, it is the consensus that organ procurement in China is exploitative, even if people don’t know the exact details. Should surgeons even perform transplants in Asia? Many interesting questions.

zemvpferreira 2y ago
I'm sorry but those links seem to talk about dozens, or hundreds, of paid or somewhat coerced donors. OP is talking about hundreds of thousands of people being perpetually harvested in captivity. I'm not say he's lying or exaggerating, but I would appreciate a much, much, much better source to support those claims.