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> One day, all these products will be gone, and people will only know MBA-ware. They won't know it can be any other way. Just like vinyl made a comeback 'real'

> One day, all these products will be gone, and people will only know MBA-ware. They won't know it can be any other way. Just like vinyl made a comeback 'real' software will come back as well, maybe running in an emulator in a browser. Yes, there will be copyright problems, yes there will be hurdles but if and when MBAware becomes the norm software will persevere. Free software for sure, commercial software most likely even if legally on shaky foundations. The tighter they grip, the more users will slip from their clutches.

patates 2y ago
> vinyl made a comeback Well, at least one of us must be living in a bubble.
- batch12 2y ago
  I don't know about a full comeback, but it is really the only physical format I see for sale in major retail stores in the US (like Walmart, etc.) The format had outpaced CDs recently [0], but I think due to a decline in CD sales too. [0] (2023) https://www.bbc.com/news/64919126.amp https://www.bbc.com/news/64919126.amp
  - sorenjan 2y ago
    According to a study in 2023 half of vinyl buyers in the US doesn't have a record player. It seems like for a lot of people it's less of a music media and more a combination of supporting their favorite artists and home decor or collecting cards. My guess is that a majority of all vinyl buyers listen to a lot of digital music as well. https://consequence.net/2023/04/half-vinyl-buyers-record-player-study/ https://consequence.net/2023/04/half-vinyl-buyers-record-pla...
- the_third_wave 2y ago
  It went from 'nearly dead, scrap the factories' to 'we need more manufacturing capacity to supply the increasing demand'. Not a bubble, i don't do vinyl but I know several people who do. The same will happen to 'real software' once the current iteration of productivity tools can no longer be distinguished from advertisements for such, once you need to really dig down to do simple things but have "AI enhanced autoclippy" under every "button". It is just the way things go no matter the field: 'craft' beer, vinyl, sourdough, vintage whatever. In some cases it is actually rational, in others (vinyl) it is mostly driven by emotional factors. The 'craft software' revival would be an example of a rational move.

patates 2y ago

> vinyl made a comeback Well, at least one of us must be living in a bubble.

batch12 2y ago
I don't know about a full comeback, but it is really the only physical format I see for sale in major retail stores in the US (like Walmart, etc.) The format had outpaced CDs recently [0], but I think due to a decline in CD sales too. [0] (2023) https://www.bbc.com/news/64919126.amp https://www.bbc.com/news/64919126.amp
- sorenjan 2y ago
  According to a study in 2023 half of vinyl buyers in the US doesn't have a record player. It seems like for a lot of people it's less of a music media and more a combination of supporting their favorite artists and home decor or collecting cards. My guess is that a majority of all vinyl buyers listen to a lot of digital music as well. https://consequence.net/2023/04/half-vinyl-buyers-record-player-study/ https://consequence.net/2023/04/half-vinyl-buyers-record-pla...
the_third_wave 2y ago
It went from 'nearly dead, scrap the factories' to 'we need more manufacturing capacity to supply the increasing demand'. Not a bubble, i don't do vinyl but I know several people who do. The same will happen to 'real software' once the current iteration of productivity tools can no longer be distinguished from advertisements for such, once you need to really dig down to do simple things but have "AI enhanced autoclippy" under every "button". It is just the way things go no matter the field: 'craft' beer, vinyl, sourdough, vintage whatever. In some cases it is actually rational, in others (vinyl) it is mostly driven by emotional factors. The 'craft software' revival would be an example of a rational move.