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I will miss the loss of the Touch ID. Mainly because of the way I carry my phone (for those that carry phone in jeans front pocket it’s trivial to unlock your p

I will miss the loss of the Touch ID. Mainly because of the way I carry my phone (for those that carry phone in jeans front pocket it’s trivial to unlock your phone in the same motion you pull it out of your pocket), but in my personal opinion Touch ID is also more secure. It’s easier to point a phone at someone’s face than it is to force them to place their thumb in a specific area. Good security understands the tradeoff of usability. I have felt for a long while that Touch ID did quite well on riding that balance, and that Face ID moves more toward UX at the sacrifice of security

ak217 2y ago
Personally I think FaceID is a big step backwards in terms of both security and usability.
wruza 2y ago
Touch button area also serves as a holding point (e.g. for a pinky finger or a thumb base) that doesn’t touch the screen. When I bought my SE, my buddy bought 13 mini, which had full-surface touch. Our every telegram discussion ended in him “recording audio” because you cannot exit an app without touching screen at bottom-right with the meaty base of your thumb. I was happy I went SE. I also bought a non-frameless tablet for my grandma for the same reason, because people have to firmly hold devices without touching the screen somehow. Her previous tablet had thin frames and every time she wanted to show something to me, it “oh, flew away again”, because she touched the screen. Modern design is done by people who value only form without even thinking of function. This is pure idiocy, literally as in idiocracy movie. Same for this new SE which is just an iphone now, cause they can’t help but idiot it.
jimmydoe 2y ago
I use phone in dark a lot, face unlocking is painful.
- jdlshore 2y ago
  The iPhone uses an infrared 3D camera and array of infrared dots. It works fine in the dark. I just tried it.
  - jimmydoe 2y ago
    That’s strange. Somehow my iPhone 16 failed more than half of times in the dark. I have to turn on the lights or bright up the screen to unlock.
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makeitdouble 2y ago
For what it's worth, I've been trying for years now to have my partner's phone face unlock while sitting side by side, facing etc. All with consent of course. It's surprisingly hard, my success rate is abysmal. Especially as I have to manipulate the device from the side while somewhat pointing it at her. And her success rate is also modestly low, in particular when her make-up changes or hair style covers more or less of her face. She's typing her password about a dozen of times a day. All in all I think it is pretty secure, but also not as practical as touted in the ads, and I'm kinda glad my own phone works with both finger and face recognition.

ak217 2y ago

Personally I think FaceID is a big step backwards in terms of both security and usability.

wruza 2y ago

Touch button area also serves as a holding point (e.g. for a pinky finger or a thumb base) that doesn’t touch the screen. When I bought my SE, my buddy bought 13 mini, which had full-surface touch. Our every telegram discussion ended in him “recording audio” because you cannot exit an app without touching screen at bottom-right with the meaty base of your thumb. I was happy I went SE. I also bought a non-frameless tablet for my grandma for the same reason, because people have to firmly hold devices without touching the screen somehow. Her previous tablet had thin frames and every time she wanted to show something to me, it “oh, flew away again”, because she touched the screen. Modern design is done by people who value only form without even thinking of function. This is pure idiocy, literally as in idiocracy movie. Same for this new SE which is just an iphone now, cause they can’t help but idiot it.

jimmydoe 2y ago

I use phone in dark a lot, face unlocking is painful.

jdlshore 2y ago
The iPhone uses an infrared 3D camera and array of infrared dots. It works fine in the dark. I just tried it.
- jimmydoe 2y ago
  That’s strange. Somehow my iPhone 16 failed more than half of times in the dark. I have to turn on the lights or bright up the screen to unlock.

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makeitdouble 2y ago

For what it's worth, I've been trying for years now to have my partner's phone face unlock while sitting side by side, facing etc. All with consent of course. It's surprisingly hard, my success rate is abysmal. Especially as I have to manipulate the device from the side while somewhat pointing it at her. And her success rate is also modestly low, in particular when her make-up changes or hair style covers more or less of her face. She's typing her password about a dozen of times a day. All in all I think it is pretty secure, but also not as practical as touted in the ads, and I'm kinda glad my own phone works with both finger and face recognition.