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> Oh please. Oh sure, anytime > Good faith requires facts, which this current administration does not use. I don't know, the OP (or GP?) post said they were

by rdtsc 2y ago

> Oh please. Oh sure, anytime > Good faith requires facts, which this current administration does not use. I don't know, the OP (or GP?) post said they were wanted to continue discussing the issue in good faith. I'll take them at their word until I see them saying something else, what else should we do, downvote and flag everyone to hell? And it seems it's not about the administration having good or bad faith or good or bad facts but the OP presenting their case. > Or perhaps you'd be surprised to learn they aren't eating pets in Springfield? There are farms around there, for sure. Some chickens or cows may even have names and eventually get eaten, too. Who knows. I had never been, but was just South of it, in Yellow Springs. A nice little town and big a dairy farm with their own ice-cream and rides and everything.

tomrod 2y ago
Yet Trump claimed they (Haitian immigrants) were eating people's dogs and cats. So your first part of the comment could have been an exercise towards food faith, and your latter part, perhaps mildly excusable as an ill attempt at humor in normal times, is for most who read it an attempt to muddy the very clear facts that Trump lies all the time.
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tomrod 2y ago
Since your later comment is dead, here is a timely news update to help you remain informed. https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/springfield-dog-eating-haiti-lawsuit-immigration-b2694220.html https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-polit...
- rdtsc 2y ago
  Thanks for the link, that's helpful. > Claiming the new Haitian community threatened “the good White residents” of Springfield, Blood Trump members descended on the city in August during Springfield’s annual Jazz & Blues festival, marching downtown while displaying guns and waving swastika flags. That's horrible. The city sued them, hopefully they all land in jail for a long time. > “the Blood Tribe made good on those threats,” noting that the city and its residents received at least 33 bomb threats in subsequent weeks That looks like a slam dunk case, hopefully the city judges and prosecutors there have no problem handling it. I saw the mention about Temporary Protected Status of the immigrants at the end. I had no idea that existed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temporary_protected_status https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temporary_protected_status. I'd would think the fact that disgusting group marched there and made bomb threats would make the community and the government protect them even more. The city launched a law suite after all.
  - tomrod 2y ago
    Now ask the question -- if Trump hadn't amplified allegations of this community as illegal immigrants eating dogs and cats, would they have been harassed and threatened? To me, the counterfactual clearly points to no. The Harris/Trump debate gave a set of clear accusations on film, so many that the denizens of the internet made several clever remixes to fight bullies with humor. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5llMaZ80ErY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5llMaZ80ErY [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BrCvZmSnKA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BrCvZmSnKA
    - rdtsc 2y ago
      > if Trump hadn't amplified allegations of this community as illegal immigrants eating dogs and cats, would they have been harassed and threatened? Agree you're probably right. I never watched that debate, thanks for the clip. I won't watch it further I didn't like either one of them too much. I did like the remix though, I am sure there are plenty of more of those. But it seems that group is being sued and that's hopefully they lose and that'll be the best outcome here.

by rdtsc 2y ago

tomrod 2y ago

Yet Trump claimed they (Haitian immigrants) were eating people's dogs and cats. So your first part of the comment could have been an exercise towards food faith, and your latter part, perhaps mildly excusable as an ill attempt at humor in normal times, is for most who read it an attempt to muddy the very clear facts that Trump lies all the time.

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tomrod 2y ago

Since your later comment is dead, here is a timely news update to help you remain informed. https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/springfield-dog-eating-haiti-lawsuit-immigration-b2694220.html https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-polit...

rdtsc 2y ago
Thanks for the link, that's helpful. > Claiming the new Haitian community threatened “the good White residents” of Springfield, Blood Trump members descended on the city in August during Springfield’s annual Jazz & Blues festival, marching downtown while displaying guns and waving swastika flags. That's horrible. The city sued them, hopefully they all land in jail for a long time. > “the Blood Tribe made good on those threats,” noting that the city and its residents received at least 33 bomb threats in subsequent weeks That looks like a slam dunk case, hopefully the city judges and prosecutors there have no problem handling it. I saw the mention about Temporary Protected Status of the immigrants at the end. I had no idea that existed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temporary_protected_status https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temporary_protected_status. I'd would think the fact that disgusting group marched there and made bomb threats would make the community and the government protect them even more. The city launched a law suite after all.
- tomrod 2y ago
  Now ask the question -- if Trump hadn't amplified allegations of this community as illegal immigrants eating dogs and cats, would they have been harassed and threatened? To me, the counterfactual clearly points to no. The Harris/Trump debate gave a set of clear accusations on film, so many that the denizens of the internet made several clever remixes to fight bullies with humor. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5llMaZ80ErY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5llMaZ80ErY [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BrCvZmSnKA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BrCvZmSnKA
  - rdtsc 2y ago
    > if Trump hadn't amplified allegations of this community as illegal immigrants eating dogs and cats, would they have been harassed and threatened? Agree you're probably right. I never watched that debate, thanks for the clip. I won't watch it further I didn't like either one of them too much. I did like the remix though, I am sure there are plenty of more of those. But it seems that group is being sued and that's hopefully they lose and that'll be the best outcome here.