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Elez, the guy who pushed the changes the devs were not allowed to review to the production payment system, is the guy that has just resigned because of hyper ra

Elez, the guy who pushed the changes the devs were not allowed to review to the production payment system, is the guy that has just resigned because of hyper racist comments he made in the past that have come to light. If in doubt, I recommend checking them out because they're incredibly awful, to the extent that it makes you wonder if the payment system he pushed to had ethnic information attached to it.

hn_throwaway_99 2y ago
> that has just resigned because of hyper racist comments he made in the past that have come to light. Just to add clarity, "the past" in this case wasn't even that long ago, as these racist tweets that were uncovered were from June to December of 2024.
- Zigurd 2y ago
  That, and the standard for rejecting racists shouldn't be set at "hyper racist." Especially since we are seeing supposedly well educated young men in an environment that has normalized anything less than "hyper."
  - wrfrmers 2y ago
    It seems as good a time as any to point out that the environment in which people like this are making decisions is the one in which equal opportunity/affirmative action/DEI become tenable, if not necessary. For those of you whinging about how unfair scope-broadening to force decision makers to at least consider marginalized people for opportunities is, the problem is not these initiatives, it's these people, who make it impossible to determine if someone is being rejected for merit or for some other reason. In general, we have to get away from the idea that the highest score along a narrow measure is the be-all-end-all of merit, anyway. Set a reasonable floor of competence, and then either run a lottery or begin looking at other qualities.
    - ZeroGravitas 2y ago
      Elon and JD Vance are currently campaigning on Twitter to bring him back. Amazing since Vance has an Indian wife and children that he's throwing under the bus for someone who made a public call to normalize hating Indians.
      - _DeadFred_ 2y ago
        So the same people who are trying to fire the federal workforce is complaining about firing people (for cause no less)?
    - sidibe 2y ago
      What I've learned recently from these meritocracy advocates is competence is about your skin color. Black person working on a plane = disaster waiting to happen, no further evidence needed, but if you've got a nice and competent skin color and no other relevant credentials you're good to go at Andreessen Horowitz
      - hn_throwaway_99 2y ago
        My favorite example of this is Pete Hegseth. The fact that a man with zero qualifications, experience, or demonstrated aptitude to run an organization with 3.4 million employees and an $850 billion annual budget can go on and rail about how "woke hiring" allows unqualified people to rise to positions of prominence in government just shows that some people are completely incapable of shame or introspection.
        ModernMech 2y ago
        The resumes of our former and current Sec of Defense: General Lloyd Austin (Black): - 12th Commander of United States Central Command - 33rd Vice Chief of Staff of the Army - 40th Director of the Joint Staff Command: - United States Central Command - Vice Chief of Staff of the Army - United States Forces – Iraq - Multi-National Corps – Iraq - XVIII Airborne Corps - 10th Mountain Division - 3rd Brigade, 82nd Airborne Division - 2nd Battalion, 505th Parachute Infantry Regiment Awards: 31 Major Pete Hegseth (White): - Fox News Weekend Host Command: None Awards: 4 When a guy with the second bio replaces a guy with the first bio under the banner of restoring meritocracy and rooting out DEI in the armed services, I think the message is clear what they mean by "meritocracy".
  - Quarrelsome 2y ago
    I just wanted to distinguish that he wasn't simply clumsy with his language or casually racist but rather entirely identified with it.
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metadat 2y ago
Some of the comments are detailed here: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/jd-vance/bring-back-vance-says-supports-rehiring-doge-staffer-resigned-racist-s-rcna191224 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/jd-vance/bring-back-vance-s... And they're indefensibly off-color and disgusting, and it's even more insane the VP of the USA is defending Elez. https://x.com/JDVance/status/1887900880143343633 https://x.com/JDVance/status/1887900880143343633 > We shouldn't reward journalists who try to destroy people. Ever. Step 1. Discredit the media and stop the flow of information. Step 2. Divert public funds to only your friends and allies. Pretty straightforward.
insane_dreamer 2y ago
He's been reinstated. Racism totally OK now! Woohoo!
- Quarrelsome 2y ago
  and Musk now calls for the firing of the journalist that reported on those social media posts. Is this a dream?

hn_throwaway_99 2y ago

> that has just resigned because of hyper racist comments he made in the past that have come to light. Just to add clarity, "the past" in this case wasn't even that long ago, as these racist tweets that were uncovered were from June to December of 2024.

Zigurd 2y ago
That, and the standard for rejecting racists shouldn't be set at "hyper racist." Especially since we are seeing supposedly well educated young men in an environment that has normalized anything less than "hyper."
- wrfrmers 2y ago
  It seems as good a time as any to point out that the environment in which people like this are making decisions is the one in which equal opportunity/affirmative action/DEI become tenable, if not necessary. For those of you whinging about how unfair scope-broadening to force decision makers to at least consider marginalized people for opportunities is, the problem is not these initiatives, it's these people, who make it impossible to determine if someone is being rejected for merit or for some other reason. In general, we have to get away from the idea that the highest score along a narrow measure is the be-all-end-all of merit, anyway. Set a reasonable floor of competence, and then either run a lottery or begin looking at other qualities.
  - ZeroGravitas 2y ago
    Elon and JD Vance are currently campaigning on Twitter to bring him back. Amazing since Vance has an Indian wife and children that he's throwing under the bus for someone who made a public call to normalize hating Indians.
    - _DeadFred_ 2y ago
      So the same people who are trying to fire the federal workforce is complaining about firing people (for cause no less)?
  - sidibe 2y ago
    What I've learned recently from these meritocracy advocates is competence is about your skin color. Black person working on a plane = disaster waiting to happen, no further evidence needed, but if you've got a nice and competent skin color and no other relevant credentials you're good to go at Andreessen Horowitz
    - hn_throwaway_99 2y ago
      My favorite example of this is Pete Hegseth. The fact that a man with zero qualifications, experience, or demonstrated aptitude to run an organization with 3.4 million employees and an $850 billion annual budget can go on and rail about how "woke hiring" allows unqualified people to rise to positions of prominence in government just shows that some people are completely incapable of shame or introspection.
      - ModernMech 2y ago
        The resumes of our former and current Sec of Defense: General Lloyd Austin (Black): - 12th Commander of United States Central Command - 33rd Vice Chief of Staff of the Army - 40th Director of the Joint Staff Command: - United States Central Command - Vice Chief of Staff of the Army - United States Forces – Iraq - Multi-National Corps – Iraq - XVIII Airborne Corps - 10th Mountain Division - 3rd Brigade, 82nd Airborne Division - 2nd Battalion, 505th Parachute Infantry Regiment Awards: 31 Major Pete Hegseth (White): - Fox News Weekend Host Command: None Awards: 4 When a guy with the second bio replaces a guy with the first bio under the banner of restoring meritocracy and rooting out DEI in the armed services, I think the message is clear what they mean by "meritocracy".
- Quarrelsome 2y ago
  I just wanted to distinguish that he wasn't simply clumsy with his language or casually racist but rather entirely identified with it.

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metadat 2y ago

Some of the comments are detailed here: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/jd-vance/bring-back-vance-says-supports-rehiring-doge-staffer-resigned-racist-s-rcna191224 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/jd-vance/bring-back-vance-s... And they're indefensibly off-color and disgusting, and it's even more insane the VP of the USA is defending Elez. https://x.com/JDVance/status/1887900880143343633 https://x.com/JDVance/status/1887900880143343633 > We shouldn't reward journalists who try to destroy people. Ever. Step 1. Discredit the media and stop the flow of information. Step 2. Divert public funds to only your friends and allies. Pretty straightforward.

insane_dreamer 2y ago

He's been reinstated. Racism totally OK now! Woohoo!

Quarrelsome 2y ago
and Musk now calls for the firing of the journalist that reported on those social media posts. Is this a dream?