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Note that the President's budget request is literally that: A request. The power of the purse, insofar as legislating it, rests solely with the House of Repres

Note that the President's budget request is literally that: A request. The power of the purse, insofar as legislating it, rests solely with the House of Representatives. They can listen to the request or completely ignore it or write up something in-between. The President's request has no weight, though it could be a useful indicator of the future.

decimalenough 2y ago
In legal theory, perhaps, but given that House is controlled by Republicans, how many of them dare go on record opposing the will of their master?
- Dalewyn 2y ago
  The Republican Party's loyalty/obedience to Trump so far is unprecedented even in general terms, so it's reasonable to expect a lot of his requests will be reflected in the final budget.
basementcat 2y ago
We have seen the executive branch cut funding for life saving medication (putting untold lives at risk) and fire inspectors general without authorization from the legislative branch. What makes you believe the executive branch will suddenly defer spending authority to the legislative branch?
- ok_dad 2y ago
  No kidding, this guy is so over the place! He says the executive has no say over the budget, but also later he says it’s okay for the executive to “audit” the approved and passed budget without legislative approval and cut spending. That’s called impoundment, it’s been illegal since the 1800s.
  - Dalewyn 2y ago
    The House holds the power of the purse, but the President is the sole holder of Executive powers. That is to say, Congress legislates the budget but the actual execution of that budget is up to the President. If Congress feels the President isn't executing the budget as legislated, Congress can impeach the President. As for the judiciary, SCOTUS already ruled that the President enjoys absolute immunity in the course of executing his Constitutional duties. So far the House "applauds"[1] DOGE, so all is well. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCH5zUKKpdE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCH5zUKKpdE
    - ok_dad 2y ago
      Ah, so you’re just in favor of your guy getting to be the monarch. I see. No morals, you are just one of those people that bends or breaks the law when you think it’s beneficial to your side. You people disgust me.
  - hooverd 2y ago
    Go ask Sartre.
    - ok_dad 2y ago
      Not a philosopher, your message has gone unheeded.

decimalenough 2y ago

In legal theory, perhaps, but given that House is controlled by Republicans, how many of them dare go on record opposing the will of their master?

Dalewyn 2y ago
The Republican Party's loyalty/obedience to Trump so far is unprecedented even in general terms, so it's reasonable to expect a lot of his requests will be reflected in the final budget.

basementcat 2y ago

We have seen the executive branch cut funding for life saving medication (putting untold lives at risk) and fire inspectors general without authorization from the legislative branch. What makes you believe the executive branch will suddenly defer spending authority to the legislative branch?

ok_dad 2y ago
No kidding, this guy is so over the place! He says the executive has no say over the budget, but also later he says it’s okay for the executive to “audit” the approved and passed budget without legislative approval and cut spending. That’s called impoundment, it’s been illegal since the 1800s.
- Dalewyn 2y ago
  The House holds the power of the purse, but the President is the sole holder of Executive powers. That is to say, Congress legislates the budget but the actual execution of that budget is up to the President. If Congress feels the President isn't executing the budget as legislated, Congress can impeach the President. As for the judiciary, SCOTUS already ruled that the President enjoys absolute immunity in the course of executing his Constitutional duties. So far the House "applauds"[1] DOGE, so all is well. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCH5zUKKpdE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCH5zUKKpdE
  - ok_dad 2y ago
    Ah, so you’re just in favor of your guy getting to be the monarch. I see. No morals, you are just one of those people that bends or breaks the law when you think it’s beneficial to your side. You people disgust me.
- hooverd 2y ago
  Go ask Sartre.
  - ok_dad 2y ago
    Not a philosopher, your message has gone unheeded.