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Parking: 100 Helicopters. Love it
by njarboe 2y ago
Parking: 100 Helicopters.
Love it
- JumpCrisscross 2y agoHigh rises with parking are such a stupid combination. You’re paying for density to put cars in so much of it. If you need parking in your high rise, you’re cosplaying a real metropolis.
- manoweb 2y agoExcuse me, how are people supposed to get there? Parking should be provided for 100% of the occupancy.
- shermozle 2y agoHilarious illustration of carbrain thinking.
- peepeepoopoo107 2y agoWhat if you ever want to leave the city limits? You're trapped and you're pretending that you're not.
- shermozle 2y agoTell me that you've never visited a city outside North America (and Australia) without telling me...
- defrost 2y agoRent a car from outlying rental places? That negates the need for central urban high rise dwellers to own cars. Car owners could (say) use outlying parking towers. To travel there are buses, trains, aircraft, boats, etc. Not owning a car is common in many parts of the world.
- rdlw 2y agoYou take a bus or a train or a subway or a plane or a bike or you rent a car or you roadtrip with your friends
- peepeepoopoo107 2y agoJust take a bus to go hiking in the mountains. Get real.
- defrost 2y agoThat's exactly right. A good many people have done that kind of thing many times.
- rdlw 2y agoYou didn't ask how to go hiking in the mountains, you asked how to "leave city limits". but you could still bike, go with friends, or rent a car for a day if no buses go where you want. Hiking locations tend to have lots of tourists so there would likely be bus routes, however.
- marssaxman 2y agoHere in Seattle we have a special bus service specifically for that purpose, called "Trailhead Direct".
- peepeepoopoo107 2y agoBullshit, I'm from the Puget Sound and it hardly covers any of the good trails in the Cascades, nor could it do so practically if service were ever expanded.
- defrost 2y agoThat's a lovely area with a rich history of human occupation and exploration that predates the invention of the car by several thousand years.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago> What if you ever want to leave the city limits? In case you're being serious, you rent a car or take an Uber. A metropolis might as well be defined by its lack of car ownership. Even when you're renting or being driven, you go as far as you can via train. (The Metro-North goes to an Appalachian trailhead [1].) It's safer, simpler, cheaper and nobody has the deadweight loss of being unpaid chauffeur. [1] https://www.mta.info/stations/appalachian-trail https://www.mta.info/stations/appalachian-trail
- peepeepoopoo107 2y agoHrmm, so you do need a car after all. It's really amusing listening to people from the Bay Area pass down edicts for how everyone else should use transportation, given that their decrees are a complete non-starter in well over 99% of the United States. Calling it "out of touch" would be a bit generous.
- jamiek88 2y agoWhy did you create an account just for this argument? Seems odd.
- peepeepoopoo108 2y ago[flagged]
- manoweb 2y agoMost people have great pleasure in owning and driving a nice car. The ones that do not are a minority. There are many reasons why cars (and trucks) are desirable and sought after possessions. It would be a logical fallacy that because you currently do not want one, people should build major projects with no regard to car parking.
- mixmastamyk 2y agoSuch folks don't tend to live in skyscrapers.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago> ones that do not are a minority Most Americans don't live in a skyrise. If you love your car and only have one, buy a place in Brooklyn with a garage: city living is not for you.
- dghughes 2y agoToo many people though love cars. Some cities are banning cars. Of course buses, trains, delivery vehicles still exist. Wide open places like US and Canada sure but many places are super crowded. Southern China, Lagos Nigeria, Tokyo, Mexico City. They're all implementing trains for a reason. There is just no way for cars to move if packed into a small area with hundreds of thousands of people.
- DidYaWipe 2y agoLaughable whine from delusional faux car-haters.
- taurknaut 2y agoThere are people who own penthouses they've never seen. At some point practicality just goes out the window.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago> people who own penthouses they've never seen. At some point practicality just goes out the window This isn't a matter of practicality but economics. The penthouse collectors don't need parking. A high rise with parking is practically screaming that it's a vanity project--the economics that demand a high rise don't work if you have to add dead space for cars. The math only balances if your building is entirely penthouses and valet space for sports cars.
- njarboe 2y agoDude. 100 Helicopter parking spots. Just thinking of a future where 100 people owned them and flew right to their high rise apartment parking space. Pretty sweet but I would not like all that noise.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago> thinking of a future where 100 people owned them and flew right to their high rise apartment parking space I can't hear Blade's birds at their East River heliport on 30th Street in Manhattan from my friend's apartment in Hudson Yards. The noise is mostly at street level. Not in an apartment with a modicum of thought to acoustics.
- Qwertious 2y agoHmm, they should have gliders. If the average floor is ~800m above the ground, and the surrounding area is largely buildings less than 50m tall, then you don't need an active flying machine to travel over all the buildings directly from the tower to your destination. Obviously it won't work in the other direction, and you'll need to bring your hang-glider back up, but hang-gliders are pretty light and that's a very solvable problem.