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> Wouldn't it be nice if someone also developed a tracker for when leftist governments Do you realize you are telling on yourself? The OP only says fascism.

> Wouldn't it be nice if someone also developed a tracker for when leftist governments Do you realize you are telling on yourself? The OP only says fascism. You are the one who brought left vs right into it. The fact that you equate “fascism” with “right” should be illuminating.

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gs17 2y ago
Fascism is generally considered "far-right". From Wikipedia: >Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/ FASH-iz-əm) is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement,[1][2][3] characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.[2][3] Opposed to anarchism, democracy, pluralism, egalitarianism, liberalism, socialism, and Marxism,[4][5] fascism is at the far right of the traditional left–right spectrum.[6][5][7] If you want to question their framing, I would recommend going after that their "leftists" are likely poorly defined (or only really exist in the US if you're so far to the right that everyone is the far left).
antifa 2y ago
> One sees less of that, since apparently, when a government with strong leftist signaling does the same or worse, it's all for a decent if slightly misguided cause perhaps. I'm wondering what they're talking about, since it seems like all mainstream media in the US already do what they claim? For example, everything bad that happens in China/North Korea gets reported in the US, usually with no regard of if it's true or a baseless conspiracy theory, even good things such as constructing a billion miles of high speed rail per hour or turning deserts green is reported with headlines suggesting that you should think it's a bad thing. So maybe they meant something that filters out sensationalism and misinformation and sticks to just the facts? Good luck fact checking the narrative NATO wants you to know without learning the languages of every "leftist" government of interest to you, and also not falling into somewhat obscure media outlets that are more often reactively contrarian to NATO propaganda rather than downstream of strong primary sources.

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gs17 2y ago

Fascism is generally considered "far-right". From Wikipedia: >Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/ FASH-iz-əm) is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement,[1][2][3] characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.[2][3] Opposed to anarchism, democracy, pluralism, egalitarianism, liberalism, socialism, and Marxism,[4][5] fascism is at the far right of the traditional left–right spectrum.[6][5][7] If you want to question their framing, I would recommend going after that their "leftists" are likely poorly defined (or only really exist in the US if you're so far to the right that everyone is the far left).

antifa 2y ago

> One sees less of that, since apparently, when a government with strong leftist signaling does the same or worse, it's all for a decent if slightly misguided cause perhaps. I'm wondering what they're talking about, since it seems like all mainstream media in the US already do what they claim? For example, everything bad that happens in China/North Korea gets reported in the US, usually with no regard of if it's true or a baseless conspiracy theory, even good things such as constructing a billion miles of high speed rail per hour or turning deserts green is reported with headlines suggesting that you should think it's a bad thing. So maybe they meant something that filters out sensationalism and misinformation and sticks to just the facts? Good luck fact checking the narrative NATO wants you to know without learning the languages of every "leftist" government of interest to you, and also not falling into somewhat obscure media outlets that are more often reactively contrarian to NATO propaganda rather than downstream of strong primary sources.