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Well good news, nothing is stoping you from bringing home a full cartful of groceries that walking distance either. You just have more options. Now, if you are

Well good news, nothing is stoping you from bringing home a full cartful of groceries that walking distance either. You just have more options. Now, if you are really attached to your car and are only open to using your car for groceries, stay in suburbia, it's oversupplied through centralized planning and not at risk of going anywhere!

bluefirebrand 2y ago
> Well good news, nothing is stoping you from bringing home a full cartful of groceries that walking distance either Dunno about you but I only have two hands and can only carry so much at one time I could have bought and brought a wagon or something I suppose, but that presents its own problems. Where do I store the wagon in my tiny apartment? What do I do with it when I'm actually in the store shopping, to make sure no one steals it while I'm in the store? I can't bring it into the store, it's too bulky for narrow urban grocery store aisles How do I get my wagon full of groceries to my apartment, with no elevator? Actually how do I get my empty wagon up to my apartment even, it's not going to manage narrow stairwells very easily even empty. So even if I leave it at the bottom and carry my groceries up by hand, I still have to get the wagon itself upstairs somehow And then I also own a wagon that takes up my limited apartment space, which I only use to get groceries and provides no other utility for my life. Unlike a car which I use all the time and only one of those uses is getting groceries
- ergl 2y ago
  Have you never heard of a shopping caddy? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shopping_caddy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shopping_caddy They're incredibly popular here, and yes, all supermarkets will have a lock stand near the checkout area so you can leave them there and easily reach for them as you're bagging your groceries. They're also foldable and/or small enough to fit in almost any closet.
  - bluefirebrand 2y ago
    Those little things would definitely not carry a weeks worth of groceries. They barely look like they carry more than I could by hand Never seen a grocery store with a lock stand for these things either
    - ergl 2y ago
      They can hold a surprisingly big amount of cargo if you pack things right. Here in Spain they're definitely used for weekly hauls of groceries, although it might be pushing it if have more than two kids.

bluefirebrand 2y ago

> Well good news, nothing is stoping you from bringing home a full cartful of groceries that walking distance either Dunno about you but I only have two hands and can only carry so much at one time I could have bought and brought a wagon or something I suppose, but that presents its own problems. Where do I store the wagon in my tiny apartment? What do I do with it when I'm actually in the store shopping, to make sure no one steals it while I'm in the store? I can't bring it into the store, it's too bulky for narrow urban grocery store aisles How do I get my wagon full of groceries to my apartment, with no elevator? Actually how do I get my empty wagon up to my apartment even, it's not going to manage narrow stairwells very easily even empty. So even if I leave it at the bottom and carry my groceries up by hand, I still have to get the wagon itself upstairs somehow And then I also own a wagon that takes up my limited apartment space, which I only use to get groceries and provides no other utility for my life. Unlike a car which I use all the time and only one of those uses is getting groceries

ergl 2y ago
Have you never heard of a shopping caddy? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shopping_caddy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shopping_caddy They're incredibly popular here, and yes, all supermarkets will have a lock stand near the checkout area so you can leave them there and easily reach for them as you're bagging your groceries. They're also foldable and/or small enough to fit in almost any closet.
- bluefirebrand 2y ago
  Those little things would definitely not carry a weeks worth of groceries. They barely look like they carry more than I could by hand Never seen a grocery store with a lock stand for these things either
  - ergl 2y ago
    They can hold a surprisingly big amount of cargo if you pack things right. Here in Spain they're definitely used for weekly hauls of groceries, although it might be pushing it if have more than two kids.