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Researchers created an open rival to OpenAI's o1 'reasoning' model for under $50
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- leohonexus 2y agoRelated discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42946854 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42946854
- efavdb 2y agoNoob question: It sounds like the statement is “we learned it’s cheap to copy an already built model” from its outputs, but is it still expensive to train a new (better) base model? If so, is this mostly a concern because there’s little moat available now to those who pay to train the better base models?
- wrenky 2y agonope you have the article right. "if you copy an existing model, you can get a pretty comparable model!" Really, [what the underlying paper](https://arxiv.org/abs/2501.19393 https://arxiv.org/abs/2501.19393) shows is how much you can improve existing models with several of the techniques released by openai recently (extending thought processes via "wait") It shows we can get a lot of mileage out of that technique.
- oxqbldpxo 2y agoLooks like Sam is full of it. In the age of conman lying is the key to success.
- recov 2y agoI mean, you still need the original (expensive model) to build off of, which openAI builds.