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> using Arc on a M1 MBP; normal browsing habits. Well i've certainly never heard of this browser before and it still seems pretty young. I'd guess it's the sam
by taurknaut 2y ago
> using Arc on a M1 MBP; normal browsing habits.
Well i've certainly never heard of this browser before and it still seems pretty young. I'd guess it's the same issue.
- yurishimo 2y agoArc is almost 3 (4?) years old and was the darling child of dev influencers for the better part of 2 years. It's not a niche browser, especially amongst devs that are likely to work at Cloudflare.
- littlestymaar 2y agoIt's definitely a niche browser. I think I heard of it once on HN over the past few years, and I'd be surprised if there was actually more than a few thousands of people using it.
- InsideOutSanta 2y agoIts subreddit has 52k members. There are probably hundreds of thousands of users. Still a niche browser, but it's pretty commonly used on Macs.
- littlestymaar 2y ago> Its subreddit has 52k members. There are probably hundreds of thousands of users. I don't get your reasoning here, you shouldn't even expect more than a fraction of the reddit users to have even installed and tried the browser, let alone using it regularly.
- InsideOutSanta 2y agoWhy would you join a subreddit for an obscure browser if you never even bothered to run it?
- littlestymaar 2y agoYou vastly underestimate how many “just curious” lurkers there are on any subreddits !
- InsideOutSanta 2y agoYou're asserting that they are curious enough about a free browser to join a subreddit, but not curious enough to download it?
- oneeyedpigeon 2y agoI would be surprised if it were that low; the arcbrowser sub Reddit has 50 thousand members. Still, regardless of the actual figure, I think there's a broader point which avoids the need to agree on an absolute threshold: should cloudflare block access to websites using a blacklist or should it grant access using a whitelist? Especially since it's trivial to spoof your user agent.
- littlestymaar 2y agoI'm not defending Cloudflare on any way, blocking niche browsers is sad. I'm just saying that it doesn't make sense to say it's not a niche browser.
- oneeyedpigeon 2y agoThat's fair. I'm sure it's not as well-used/known as Chrome, Firefox, Edge, or Safari. Probably not even Opera, although I'd be interested to see their respective "new users" numbers. I think it's in the same ballpark as Brave — definitely known, just not one of the big 5.
- bdhcuidbebe 2y agoIt is a niche browser with no hype going for it.
- Elfener 2y agoI think it's also EOL/not getting updates now? I mean I never used it, their only selling point seem to have been hype.
- lijok 2y agoDefinitely not EOL; https://resources.arc.net/hc/en-us/articles/20498293324823-Arc-for-macOS-2024-2025-Release-Notes https://resources.arc.net/hc/en-us/articles/20498293324823-A...
- swiftcoder 2y agoI assume they are talking about the company moving on to develop a new browser: https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/24/24279020/browser-company-ai-browser-arc https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/24/24279020/browser-company...
- chrisandchris 2y agoI'm still not sure how some random browser should result in a block by the provider. I don't think there's any security risk for the provider of the site by using an outdated browser. Blocking malicious IPs yes/maybe, blocking suspicious acitivity maybe. But because you have browser X - please not. This is going to lead two a two-class internet where new technologies will not emerge and big players will win because the gate the high is so absurdly high and random that people stop to invent.
- tyzoid 2y agoIt's a chromium derivative.