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Interesting, but strangely written: > The reason to close these cafes was obviously to save the physical and mental health of the teens in Beijing. I don't se

Interesting, but strangely written: > The reason to close these cafes was obviously to save the physical and mental health of the teens in Beijing. I don't see why that's so obvious, is this sarcasm?

acuozzo 14y ago
> I don't see why that's so obvious, is this sarcasm? Yes, I read it as sarcasm.
ktizo 14y ago
Is strangely written because it is sarcastically reflecting the content of official statements.
- acuozzo 14y ago
  Interestingly, it doesn't need the sarcastic tone to be funny. Chinese authority is (and will continue to be) a joke.
  - nekojima 14y ago
    A joke that (if you are Chinese in China) can get you jailed, put under indefinite house arrest, fired from job, kicked out of school, banned from professional associations, removed from your home, have savings confiscated, beaten by security thugs or failing that and with over-exuberance by thugs killed.
    - acuozzo 14y ago
      > A joke that (if you are Chinese in China) can get you jailed, put under indefinite house arrest, fired from job, kicked out of school, banned from professional associations, removed from your home, have savings confiscated, beaten by security thugs or failing that and with over-exuberance by thugs killed. This is both true and tragic, so much so that it reinforces my belief that it is preferable to drown in the Yangtze than to spend as little as a single day in such a poor excuse for a nation; that is, the "Sick man of Asia".
      - ktizo 14y ago
        How are you planning on drowning in the Yangtze River without first entering China? Or were you just planning on doing it within your first day?
        acuozzo 14y ago
        > How are you planning on drowning in the Yangtze River without first entering China? Or were you just planning on doing it within your first day? I'm not planning to drown in the Yangtze. Read my comment again. I wrote it from the "if I were to magically become a Chinese citizen" perspective. Any speaker of English should be able to understand the difference.
        ktizo 14y ago
        Ah I see, sorry, I was just figuring out the logistics. So, just to clear up any confusion, are you really recommending that it is preferable for Chinese citizens to drown in the Yangtze? Or is it only preferable for people who became Chinese citizens through some form of magical means, possibly involving a wizard?
        acuozzo 14y ago
        > So, just to clear up any confusion, are you really recommending that it is preferable for Chinese citizens to drown in the Yangtze? Or is it only preferable for people who became Chinese citizens through some form of magical means, possibly involving a wizard? No, I'm not. I'm saying that it'd be preferable for _me_ to drown in the Yangtze if I were to become a Chinese citizen via magical means. Are you really reading my comment(s) incorrectly or are you trying to push me between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place by asking antagonizing questions and hoping I respond inappropriately to them?
        ktizo 14y ago
        I was being ridiculously literal in my interpretation as I felt that you were being ridiculously hyperbolic and that you were verging into being insulting to the chinese in general rather than the chinese government in particular, even if that may have not been your intention. Saying that you would rather drown than live in a particular group is a pretty strong statement. To be honest I don't believe for a second that if you were actually magically turned into a chinese citizen, by some nefarious wizard with an exceedingly strange sense of humour, that you would then say to yourself "Right, that's it, I'm off to drown in the Yangtze river, only got a day.". For one thing you would have at least a few days initially of wondering what the fuck was going on and feeling lost and bewildered and stuff, so the timeframe isn't realistic. And even then, I reckon you would be more likely to just get on with life from then on, and also be completely shit-scared of wizards. [edit] Actually, the fear of wizards might even keep you alive as then you are less likely to be worried about the power of the chinese government. Unless they also have wizards, in which case you might have problems.
pxue 14y ago
it most indefinitely is because the original Chinese post he sourced (Solidot) didn't mention crack down on netcafes "for youth" at all. original text sounded more like they went around and hunted down all the "illegal" blacklisted sites that were peddling illegal materials, spreading political rumors and being anti-communist/party leaders/party systems. sounds like a normal day for left leaning anything in China.

Interesting, but strangely written: > The reason to close these cafes was obviously to save the physical and mental health of the teens in Beijing. I don't see why that's so obvious, is this sarcasm?

acuozzo 14y ago

> I don't see why that's so obvious, is this sarcasm? Yes, I read it as sarcasm.

ktizo 14y ago

Is strangely written because it is sarcastically reflecting the content of official statements.

acuozzo 14y ago
Interestingly, it doesn't need the sarcastic tone to be funny. Chinese authority is (and will continue to be) a joke.
- nekojima 14y ago
  A joke that (if you are Chinese in China) can get you jailed, put under indefinite house arrest, fired from job, kicked out of school, banned from professional associations, removed from your home, have savings confiscated, beaten by security thugs or failing that and with over-exuberance by thugs killed.
  - acuozzo 14y ago
    > A joke that (if you are Chinese in China) can get you jailed, put under indefinite house arrest, fired from job, kicked out of school, banned from professional associations, removed from your home, have savings confiscated, beaten by security thugs or failing that and with over-exuberance by thugs killed. This is both true and tragic, so much so that it reinforces my belief that it is preferable to drown in the Yangtze than to spend as little as a single day in such a poor excuse for a nation; that is, the "Sick man of Asia".
    - ktizo 14y ago
      How are you planning on drowning in the Yangtze River without first entering China? Or were you just planning on doing it within your first day?
      - acuozzo 14y ago
        > How are you planning on drowning in the Yangtze River without first entering China? Or were you just planning on doing it within your first day? I'm not planning to drown in the Yangtze. Read my comment again. I wrote it from the "if I were to magically become a Chinese citizen" perspective. Any speaker of English should be able to understand the difference.
        ktizo 14y ago
        Ah I see, sorry, I was just figuring out the logistics. So, just to clear up any confusion, are you really recommending that it is preferable for Chinese citizens to drown in the Yangtze? Or is it only preferable for people who became Chinese citizens through some form of magical means, possibly involving a wizard?
        acuozzo 14y ago
        > So, just to clear up any confusion, are you really recommending that it is preferable for Chinese citizens to drown in the Yangtze? Or is it only preferable for people who became Chinese citizens through some form of magical means, possibly involving a wizard? No, I'm not. I'm saying that it'd be preferable for _me_ to drown in the Yangtze if I were to become a Chinese citizen via magical means. Are you really reading my comment(s) incorrectly or are you trying to push me between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place by asking antagonizing questions and hoping I respond inappropriately to them?
        ktizo 14y ago
        I was being ridiculously literal in my interpretation as I felt that you were being ridiculously hyperbolic and that you were verging into being insulting to the chinese in general rather than the chinese government in particular, even if that may have not been your intention. Saying that you would rather drown than live in a particular group is a pretty strong statement. To be honest I don't believe for a second that if you were actually magically turned into a chinese citizen, by some nefarious wizard with an exceedingly strange sense of humour, that you would then say to yourself "Right, that's it, I'm off to drown in the Yangtze river, only got a day.". For one thing you would have at least a few days initially of wondering what the fuck was going on and feeling lost and bewildered and stuff, so the timeframe isn't realistic. And even then, I reckon you would be more likely to just get on with life from then on, and also be completely shit-scared of wizards. [edit] Actually, the fear of wizards might even keep you alive as then you are less likely to be worried about the power of the chinese government. Unless they also have wizards, in which case you might have problems.

pxue 14y ago

it most indefinitely is because the original Chinese post he sourced (Solidot) didn't mention crack down on netcafes "for youth" at all. original text sounded more like they went around and hunted down all the "illegal" blacklisted sites that were peddling illegal materials, spreading political rumors and being anti-communist/party leaders/party systems. sounds like a normal day for left leaning anything in China.