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No I frankly have never heard of anything like this, and it doesn't appear the dozens of federal budget experts, Constitutional law experts, political historian
by llamaimperative 2y ago
No I frankly have never heard of anything like this, and it doesn't appear the dozens of federal budget experts, Constitutional law experts, political historians, or policy legal analysts I follow closely have heard of anything similar either.
I don't think anyone at any location on the political spectrum would describe what's going on right now as "business as usual," but apparently you believe that's the case. So please share evidence. Definitionally, it should be abundant.
- ty6853 2y ago[flagged]
- llamaimperative 2y agoBut uhhh… Isn’t that process actually going on currently in Congress, where/when/how it normally happens, and this process is going on separately, very atypically, and already changing government outflows prior to any congressional decisions? I don’t think “every year a totally different branch of government argues over the budget” is analogous at all, and I don’t think you do either.
- ty6853 2y agoI haven't said it was analogous though, it was your invented demand.
- llamaimperative 2y agoYou suggested that the right is currently doing to the left what the left does to the right… Great evidence! Thanks!
- ty6853 2y agoIm suggesting doing different non-analogous things can provide balance. At no point did I assert they must be analogous nor am I obliged to prove your own assumptions.
- llamaimperative 2y agoGot it, so the other party may some day eventually do something similar to what is happening today, and at that point, the two would be equal and symmetrical.
- vel0city 2y ago> Every year's appropriation bill, there is a line by line partison fight over funding And who normally does that, a billionaire with grudges loosely appointed by the executive branch mostly doing it on his own in secret or the representatives in Congress? You sure this is normal?
- ty6853 2y agoNo it's not normal. What is normal is say congress and bankers meeting in secret under assumed identities on an (Jakyll) island to create institutions like the federal reserve that 'eases' massive inflation in while purposefully firewalled from democratic representation, and jammed through by their own admission before popular will can stop them. So doing what was actually advertised is far less secret than much of what congress does.
- UncleMeat 2y agoAnd if this were Congress passing a budget then people would be upset but wouldn't be calling it illegal. There's a huge difference between Congress passing a budget (within its constitutional powers) and the Executive just killing anything and everything that seems "woke" them with no legislative authorization.
- ty6853 2y agoMy assertion was 'the right dismantling the shadow left, and the left dismantling the shadow right hopefully provides some balance.' Not that they do it in identical ways, nor analogous ways. The demand for an analogy was a strawman predicated on such. I'm open to the idea both sides have done it lawfully and/or unlawfully.
- UncleMeat 2y agoThe unlawfulness is the part that is newsworthy and incredibly frightening. That's the part that matters. If the executive can unilaterally decide to allocate funds to wherever it wants while ignoring Congress, then Congress is no a coequal branch and our constitutional order is dead.