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I still rip every audio CD (including audiobooks) into MP3 and I have about 8 GB of MP3 audio files in my library (a lot of children's audio books in there for

I still rip every audio CD (including audiobooks) into MP3 and I have about 8 GB of MP3 audio files in my library (a lot of children's audio books in there for the kids). The format plays on nearly every device that plays any kind of music ever made, files are tiny, and they sound amazing still. It's so much different than like 480i videos from old VHS and DV tape imports from the MP3 era.

tombert 2y ago
I understand for Audiobooks, but why use anything outside of FLAC for music CDs in 2025? Honest question, not trying to stop you from doing what you're doing. I also still rip audio CDs, but I don't compress with anything that isn't lossless. Hard drive space is super cheap nowadays, and FLAC is even supported natively in my browser.
- thombles 2y ago
  Speaking as someone who has filled up his phone pushing music onto it via SyncThing - 320 kbps MP3 gets me a lot further than FLAC!
  - tombert 2y ago
    Fair enough; makes me wish that MicroSD card slots were still standard on phones. If you had a 512GB card, then you'd be able to get an awful lot of lossless music on there. I've heard Opus is a better bang-for-buck for the size to quality ratio, but I haven't tried it yet.
  - snapplebobapple 2y ago
    Try opus, it sounds dramatically better and has smaller file sizes
- cypress66 2y ago
  Not him, but I use lossy because phones have small capacities and I can't be bothered to have lossless on pc + lossy on phone.
- ssl-3 2y ago
  I couldn't hear a problem with properly-encoded high-bitrate MP3 when my ears were much, much younger, and I still cannot do so today. I can play an MP3 anywhere that music files are played. I still can't do that with FLAC. I know that FLAC is perfect, and that MP3 is lossy, and that such lossy formats have generational loss in re-encodes. But I can either manage multiple overlapping collections of digital music and a conversion system, or I can manage a single collection and skip a lot of that inconvenience. I chose simplicity.
- hnuser435 2y ago
  I rip and convert to FLAC primarily for the reasons you stated, but I also have to convert to MP3 when I want to play music from an SD card on my car's head unit.
- snapplebobapple 2y ago
  I rip to flac and then use fileflows to convert to opus personally then syncthing to get the 50 gb of opus files to my phone. As flac my cd collection is around half a terrabyte so it only recently became possible to out the whole thing on my phone for just excessive money (grapheneos doesnt run on a phone that supports sd cards so that cheaper compromise was out for me)
  - anal_reactor 2y ago
    Same here, except I decided to stay with stock Android and have an SD card.
    - snapplebobapple 2y ago
      That's cool. To me grapheneos is kind of the minimum reasonable level of security I think is ok (and I'm also worried about data leaking to google itself). To each their own acceptable security profile.
- szszrk 2y ago
  Compatibility. There are so many devices that support mp3. My 15 year old car plays CDs with hundreds of mp3s with zero issues. I still have somewhere a mobile CD mp3 player that will work with both new files and those I harvested 20 years ago. There is surprisingly still some mp3 releases online, including content for kids which for me was mp3 only so far. I have a lot of FLACs but with years it makes more and more sense to me to keep it unified.
ksec 2y ago
I mean AAC-LC is much better option than MP3, also patent free, compressed much better, and also plays on nearly every device that plays any kind of music ever made since early 2000.

tombert 2y ago

I understand for Audiobooks, but why use anything outside of FLAC for music CDs in 2025? Honest question, not trying to stop you from doing what you're doing. I also still rip audio CDs, but I don't compress with anything that isn't lossless. Hard drive space is super cheap nowadays, and FLAC is even supported natively in my browser.

thombles 2y ago
Speaking as someone who has filled up his phone pushing music onto it via SyncThing - 320 kbps MP3 gets me a lot further than FLAC!
- tombert 2y ago
  Fair enough; makes me wish that MicroSD card slots were still standard on phones. If you had a 512GB card, then you'd be able to get an awful lot of lossless music on there. I've heard Opus is a better bang-for-buck for the size to quality ratio, but I haven't tried it yet.
- snapplebobapple 2y ago
  Try opus, it sounds dramatically better and has smaller file sizes
cypress66 2y ago
Not him, but I use lossy because phones have small capacities and I can't be bothered to have lossless on pc + lossy on phone.
ssl-3 2y ago
I couldn't hear a problem with properly-encoded high-bitrate MP3 when my ears were much, much younger, and I still cannot do so today. I can play an MP3 anywhere that music files are played. I still can't do that with FLAC. I know that FLAC is perfect, and that MP3 is lossy, and that such lossy formats have generational loss in re-encodes. But I can either manage multiple overlapping collections of digital music and a conversion system, or I can manage a single collection and skip a lot of that inconvenience. I chose simplicity.
hnuser435 2y ago
I rip and convert to FLAC primarily for the reasons you stated, but I also have to convert to MP3 when I want to play music from an SD card on my car's head unit.
snapplebobapple 2y ago
I rip to flac and then use fileflows to convert to opus personally then syncthing to get the 50 gb of opus files to my phone. As flac my cd collection is around half a terrabyte so it only recently became possible to out the whole thing on my phone for just excessive money (grapheneos doesnt run on a phone that supports sd cards so that cheaper compromise was out for me)
- anal_reactor 2y ago
  Same here, except I decided to stay with stock Android and have an SD card.
  - snapplebobapple 2y ago
    That's cool. To me grapheneos is kind of the minimum reasonable level of security I think is ok (and I'm also worried about data leaking to google itself). To each their own acceptable security profile.
szszrk 2y ago
Compatibility. There are so many devices that support mp3. My 15 year old car plays CDs with hundreds of mp3s with zero issues. I still have somewhere a mobile CD mp3 player that will work with both new files and those I harvested 20 years ago. There is surprisingly still some mp3 releases online, including content for kids which for me was mp3 only so far. I have a lot of FLACs but with years it makes more and more sense to me to keep it unified.

ksec 2y ago

I mean AAC-LC is much better option than MP3, also patent free, compressed much better, and also plays on nearly every device that plays any kind of music ever made since early 2000.