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Military members are government employees. I imagine they would be extremely circumspect of being deployed against other government employees who were cheated b

Military members are government employees. I imagine they would be extremely circumspect of being deployed against other government employees who were cheated by a bad-faith deal.

maronato 2y ago
“I’m just following orders” has been a successful moral defense for centuries. I wouldn’t bet on it losing its effectiveness this time.
rchaud 2y ago
There is no "they". The military adheres to the law for only as long as those laws are enforced. If the US military can commit war crimes abroad and be protected from outside prosecution, there is nothing stopping them from doing the same inside the US. All it takes is for one person in charge to ignore charges in a military court, or simply not comply with a legal summons in civilian court. Look at how the US treats the International Criminal Court today, a legal body it itself helped create after WWII. Not a huge leap to think they will ignore state courts in the US. Who's going to arrest them?
root_axis 2y ago
> I imagine they would be extremely circumspect of being deployed against other government employees who were cheated by a bad-faith deal Why would they be?
- dehugger 2y ago
  Because the paychecks come from the same place. If your boss publicly cheated your coworker and then sent the mob to break his kneecaps for protesting, wouldn't that concern you? For purely selfish reasons if nothing else.
  - root_axis 2y ago
    I doubt that kind of characterization would be accepted. My expectation is that there would be some reasoning used to justify withholding the funds.
forgotoldacc 2y ago
That rides on the assumption that there's considerable sympathy for them solely for the reason of checks coming from the same source. Having spent most of my life surrounded by military dudes, they support other military dudes. But they very much do not support anybody in DC.

Military members are government employees. I imagine they would be extremely circumspect of being deployed against other government employees who were cheated by a bad-faith deal.

maronato 2y ago

“I’m just following orders” has been a successful moral defense for centuries. I wouldn’t bet on it losing its effectiveness this time.

rchaud 2y ago

There is no "they". The military adheres to the law for only as long as those laws are enforced. If the US military can commit war crimes abroad and be protected from outside prosecution, there is nothing stopping them from doing the same inside the US. All it takes is for one person in charge to ignore charges in a military court, or simply not comply with a legal summons in civilian court. Look at how the US treats the International Criminal Court today, a legal body it itself helped create after WWII. Not a huge leap to think they will ignore state courts in the US. Who's going to arrest them?

root_axis 2y ago

> I imagine they would be extremely circumspect of being deployed against other government employees who were cheated by a bad-faith deal Why would they be?

dehugger 2y ago
Because the paychecks come from the same place. If your boss publicly cheated your coworker and then sent the mob to break his kneecaps for protesting, wouldn't that concern you? For purely selfish reasons if nothing else.
- root_axis 2y ago
  I doubt that kind of characterization would be accepted. My expectation is that there would be some reasoning used to justify withholding the funds.

forgotoldacc 2y ago

That rides on the assumption that there's considerable sympathy for them solely for the reason of checks coming from the same source. Having spent most of my life surrounded by military dudes, they support other military dudes. But they very much do not support anybody in DC.