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It's challenging because one person's "politics" is another person's "my extended family is being actively slaughtered in the middle east, how can I think or ta

by 63 2y ago

It's challenging because one person's "politics" is another person's "my extended family is being actively slaughtered in the middle east, how can I think or talk about anything else." Is the person wrong for that? The line for what is and isn't politics is incredibly blurry and is almost always drawn on the side of whoever already has the most privilege

IncreasePosts 2y ago
Ok, but it does make for poor dinner party conversation.
MrScruff 2y ago
That would still be politics, yes. What would be the benefit of discussing it at work? The particular example you give is one which is especially divisive. If someone feels emotionally affected by an issue to the point where they cannot focus on work they should take a leave of absence.
- viraptor 2y ago
  It's called being an understanding human. Unless you limit the topics to the weather and definitely not in the changing climate style, you will talk about real life quite often. And someone's real life may be a school dropoff one day and a grenade landing on their brother digging trenches in Ukraine the day after. If you hard nope out of tougher subjects, they're unlikely to talk much to you afterwards.
  - akimbostrawman 2y ago
    Random people aren't your therapist or owe you understanding whatever trauma you pull out of your hat.
  - MrScruff 2y ago
    If you're unable to focus at work because of some personal trauma, then the best thing to do at most companies is talk to your line manager about it to explain the situation. That's entirely reasonable and I would think that most people will respond empathetically in that situation. I don't think that's typically what is meant when discussing 'leaving politics out of work' though.
    - viraptor 2y ago
      Not sure where you got the "unable to focus at work" part from. It's not about anything affecting work, just normal conversation.
thatguy0900 2y ago
You could also argue that politics can't be discussed civally in normal conversations because there is a rule not to do it and Noone has the experience. If we all grew up in a environment where people civally discussed politics we might be able to do it. It really wasn't that long ago when mitt Romney defended Obama on stage as a good, honest family man, as impossible to imagine as that is today

by 63 2y ago

IncreasePosts 2y ago

Ok, but it does make for poor dinner party conversation.

MrScruff 2y ago

That would still be politics, yes. What would be the benefit of discussing it at work? The particular example you give is one which is especially divisive. If someone feels emotionally affected by an issue to the point where they cannot focus on work they should take a leave of absence.

viraptor 2y ago
It's called being an understanding human. Unless you limit the topics to the weather and definitely not in the changing climate style, you will talk about real life quite often. And someone's real life may be a school dropoff one day and a grenade landing on their brother digging trenches in Ukraine the day after. If you hard nope out of tougher subjects, they're unlikely to talk much to you afterwards.
- akimbostrawman 2y ago
  Random people aren't your therapist or owe you understanding whatever trauma you pull out of your hat.
- MrScruff 2y ago
  If you're unable to focus at work because of some personal trauma, then the best thing to do at most companies is talk to your line manager about it to explain the situation. That's entirely reasonable and I would think that most people will respond empathetically in that situation. I don't think that's typically what is meant when discussing 'leaving politics out of work' though.
  - viraptor 2y ago
    Not sure where you got the "unable to focus at work" part from. It's not about anything affecting work, just normal conversation.

thatguy0900 2y ago

You could also argue that politics can't be discussed civally in normal conversations because there is a rule not to do it and Noone has the experience. If we all grew up in a environment where people civally discussed politics we might be able to do it. It really wasn't that long ago when mitt Romney defended Obama on stage as a good, honest family man, as impossible to imagine as that is today