> Browser rendering engines are so powerful and versatile and universal I don't see how they can lose. Well browsers are pretty damn heavy for an app that won'

> Browser rendering engines are so powerful and versatile and universal I don't see how they can lose. Well browsers are pretty damn heavy for an app that won't use 99% of its functionality. Maybe some of this can be amortized with clever distro work so apps don't have to ship the whole runtime but that hasn't happened yet. (In fact, it's a little odd to me electron is based on chrome rather than the WebKit that actually ships with macos.... you should be able to ship that sort of app with a few megabytes) I'd also rather eat glass than be stuck with javascript, easily the most frustrating ecosystem I've ever worked with by a very wide margin. Just the language is ok, but the build pipelines/bundling/transpilation/polyfillls is absolutely miserable to work with and lack of a decent standard library really hurts. It's crazy how we've basically lifted up the concepts of compilation and linking c objects to the world of javascript, just to ship code in a language the browser already fully supports. Maybe WASM will help but my understanding its use of the DOM is quite awkward and still requires javascript usage.