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So the OPM grants them a sabbatical or extended vacation or a hundred other things they have the discretion to do. Pretending or hoping everything unorthodox o

So the OPM grants them a sabbatical or extended vacation or a hundred other things they have the discretion to do. Pretending or hoping everything unorthodox or unprecedented is somehow illegal is already becoming tiresome to read about in comment sections and it hasn’t even been a month of this administration.

spacemanspiff01 2y ago
If they were serious about the offer, they would get it passed through Congress on a party line vote via reconciliation, they have the votes, there is nothing the Dems could do to stop it. The fact that they have not is telling.
- encoderer 2y ago
  All it tells me is that I agree with you and yes congress would ratify it, so doing this is pointless and only going to slow you down. Why would it make sense for them to do this? Democrats would still howl in disapproval no matter what they did.
  - ModernMech 2y ago
    > so doing this is pointless and only going to slow you down. That's a feature. Going slow and giving Democrats a chance to howl is called "democracy". It's our system. Unilaterally moving fast and breaking things without even allowing a chance for debate or input from the minority party is a different system, called "autocracy".
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    - encoderer 2y ago
      Americans elected a republican majority in congress and the executive branch. RBG ensured they have a clear majority in the court. Democrats marginalized themselves by catering to their most fringe elements. As they say, elections have consequences.
      - ModernMech 2y ago
        And that Republican majority can pass bills through the Congress, and the Republican president can sign them into law, and the elected Democrats get to have their say. But MAGA can't just come in and completely trash everything people did just because they disagree with the priorities that came before them. How would you run a country that way, if you have to start from scratch every 4 years? How could you operate a business that way, if things you do can just be made illegal by decree? How can you run a research agenda if your secured funding can just be pulled at will?
        transcriptase 2y ago
        I’m certain you felt the exact same way when Biden spent his first weeks in office doing the exact same thing, issuing executive orders to systemically reverse everything Trump did in 4 years. It must have been deeply upsetting when the White House press secretary was asked at the time why he was skipping congress, and she said that Biden was not going to “delay action” by going the legislative route. And I’m sure you’ll feel the same way when the next Democrat president does it too right?
        ModernMech 2y ago
        Biden was my 10th option for POTUS, and I felt about his overreach the same way I feel about Trump's. But Biden is gone, Trump is POTUS, and what Trump is doing still represents a new overreach into territory that, again, the other side would not like if it were applied to them, yet you seem to be reveling in it. > It must have been deeply upsetting when the White House press secretary yes. > And I’m sure you’ll feel the same way when the next Democrat president does it too right? yes. You're trying to catch me in a "gotcha" but I don't support abuse of power no matter which side is abusing that power.
        encoderer 2y ago
        Possibly you’re a victim of the super polarized environment today but this is hard to believe. You’ve written dozens of comments attacking the current administration. How much ink did you spill over Biden 4 years ago?
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spacemanspiff01 2y ago

If they were serious about the offer, they would get it passed through Congress on a party line vote via reconciliation, they have the votes, there is nothing the Dems could do to stop it. The fact that they have not is telling.

encoderer 2y ago
All it tells me is that I agree with you and yes congress would ratify it, so doing this is pointless and only going to slow you down. Why would it make sense for them to do this? Democrats would still howl in disapproval no matter what they did.
- ModernMech 2y ago
  > so doing this is pointless and only going to slow you down. That's a feature. Going slow and giving Democrats a chance to howl is called "democracy". It's our system. Unilaterally moving fast and breaking things without even allowing a chance for debate or input from the minority party is a different system, called "autocracy".
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  - encoderer 2y ago
    Americans elected a republican majority in congress and the executive branch. RBG ensured they have a clear majority in the court. Democrats marginalized themselves by catering to their most fringe elements. As they say, elections have consequences.
    - ModernMech 2y ago
      And that Republican majority can pass bills through the Congress, and the Republican president can sign them into law, and the elected Democrats get to have their say. But MAGA can't just come in and completely trash everything people did just because they disagree with the priorities that came before them. How would you run a country that way, if you have to start from scratch every 4 years? How could you operate a business that way, if things you do can just be made illegal by decree? How can you run a research agenda if your secured funding can just be pulled at will?
      - transcriptase 2y ago
        I’m certain you felt the exact same way when Biden spent his first weeks in office doing the exact same thing, issuing executive orders to systemically reverse everything Trump did in 4 years. It must have been deeply upsetting when the White House press secretary was asked at the time why he was skipping congress, and she said that Biden was not going to “delay action” by going the legislative route. And I’m sure you’ll feel the same way when the next Democrat president does it too right?
        ModernMech 2y ago
        Biden was my 10th option for POTUS, and I felt about his overreach the same way I feel about Trump's. But Biden is gone, Trump is POTUS, and what Trump is doing still represents a new overreach into territory that, again, the other side would not like if it were applied to them, yet you seem to be reveling in it. > It must have been deeply upsetting when the White House press secretary yes. > And I’m sure you’ll feel the same way when the next Democrat president does it too right? yes. You're trying to catch me in a "gotcha" but I don't support abuse of power no matter which side is abusing that power.
        encoderer 2y ago
        Possibly you’re a victim of the super polarized environment today but this is hard to believe. You’ve written dozens of comments attacking the current administration. How much ink did you spill over Biden 4 years ago?

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