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I discovered the same recently and have abandoned it. It's unfortunate because the potential is there for a real city wide or nation wide group discussion platf

I discovered the same recently and have abandoned it. It's unfortunate because the potential is there for a real city wide or nation wide group discussion platform. But who moderates the moderators?

Klonoar 2y ago
I don’t have too much issue with Reddits politics at the moment, but I do think it’s odd that such a powerful platform in society is managed by volunteer (mostly) anonymous moderators. I will be explicit in that I am not condoning doxxing Reddit mods. I just don’t think we’d be fine with this in normal day to day life.
- warkdarrior 2y ago
  Do you know the editors at your local TV stations? The local radio stations? The people who curate the datasets that train the YouTube recommendation model?
  - lmm 2y ago
    > Do you know the editors at your local TV stations? The local radio stations? Not personally, but their names are public, and if they were taking backhanders there would be a scandal. Remember the payola lawsuits?
    - throwaway2037 2y ago
      Slightly off-topic: Do you know if Spotify (and other music streaming services) are allowed to accept payment to play/recommend songs for users? I am unsure if payola rules in the United States are strictly for radio stations.
      - lmm 2y ago
        They openly allow you to pay to put your songs in playlists, but they're marked as sponsored songs and users can opt out. Supposedly that's them following the rules; there are rumours of shadier deals going on as well, but there always are in the music industry.
    - yabatopia 2y ago
      That was 65 years ago. There are way more sophisticated ways now to influence things.
  - Klonoar 2y ago
    I would argue that one should know those things.
wholinator2 2y ago
> who moderates the moderators? Advertisers currently
tapoxi 2y ago
Users moderate the moderators, if they don't like the tone of a subreddit they split off into another subreddit.
- xvector 2y ago
  Nah, what we are seeing is that they just leave the site, and the site becomes more radicalized overall. Banning the_donald was the beginning of the end for Reddit, at least as far as balanced discourse went. At that time, the r/all was relatively balanced and you'd see major news stories from both POVs. Now it's a hysterical echo chamber full of thinly veiled death threats towards the sitting president. Disclaimer: I have money invested in RDDT.

I discovered the same recently and have abandoned it. It's unfortunate because the potential is there for a real city wide or nation wide group discussion platform. But who moderates the moderators?

Klonoar 2y ago

I don’t have too much issue with Reddits politics at the moment, but I do think it’s odd that such a powerful platform in society is managed by volunteer (mostly) anonymous moderators. I will be explicit in that I am not condoning doxxing Reddit mods. I just don’t think we’d be fine with this in normal day to day life.

warkdarrior 2y ago
Do you know the editors at your local TV stations? The local radio stations? The people who curate the datasets that train the YouTube recommendation model?
- lmm 2y ago
  > Do you know the editors at your local TV stations? The local radio stations? Not personally, but their names are public, and if they were taking backhanders there would be a scandal. Remember the payola lawsuits?
  - throwaway2037 2y ago
    Slightly off-topic: Do you know if Spotify (and other music streaming services) are allowed to accept payment to play/recommend songs for users? I am unsure if payola rules in the United States are strictly for radio stations.
    - lmm 2y ago
      They openly allow you to pay to put your songs in playlists, but they're marked as sponsored songs and users can opt out. Supposedly that's them following the rules; there are rumours of shadier deals going on as well, but there always are in the music industry.
  - yabatopia 2y ago
    That was 65 years ago. There are way more sophisticated ways now to influence things.
- Klonoar 2y ago
  I would argue that one should know those things.

wholinator2 2y ago

> who moderates the moderators? Advertisers currently

tapoxi 2y ago

Users moderate the moderators, if they don't like the tone of a subreddit they split off into another subreddit.

xvector 2y ago
Nah, what we are seeing is that they just leave the site, and the site becomes more radicalized overall. Banning the_donald was the beginning of the end for Reddit, at least as far as balanced discourse went. At that time, the r/all was relatively balanced and you'd see major news stories from both POVs. Now it's a hysterical echo chamber full of thinly veiled death threats towards the sitting president. Disclaimer: I have money invested in RDDT.